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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" align="center"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">===========================================<br>
L O W L A N D S - L - 24 February 2009 - Volume 02<br>
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From: <span class="ep8xu"><span style="color: rgb(91, 16, 148);">burgdal32admin</span></span></span><span class="hccdpe"> </span><span class="ldacoc"><<a href="mailto:burgdal32@telenet.be">burgdal32@telenet.be</a>></span><br>
Subject: <span class="hccdpe">LL-L "Lexicon" 2009.02.20 (02) [E]</span><br>
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<span style="color: blue;">Hi Roger,</span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: blue;">In
West-Flanders we have almost the same words (and traditions). There is however
one word that is still in use for all these cards: sentje / santje or
zentje/zantje.</span><span style="font-size: 11pt;"></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: blue;">I
think that it is dirived from the latin word 'sanctus'.</span><span style="font-size: 11pt;"></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: blue;" lang="NL">We speak of 'doôsantje, geboortekartje,
doôbrief, steeksantje' and in general:' 'n prentje/printje ' .</span><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="NL"></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="NL">Â </span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: blue;">Groetjes,</span><span style="font-size: 11pt;"></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: blue;">Luc
Vanbrabant</span><span style="font-size: 11pt;"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: blue;">Oekene</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"><br style="">
<br style="">
</span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(0, 0, 221);">From:Â </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(0, 104, 28);">Roger Thijs,
Euro-Support, Inc.</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(0, 0, 221);">Â <<a href="mailto:roger.thijs@euro-support.be" target="_blank">roger.thijs@euro-support.be</a>></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;"></span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;"><span style="word-spacing: 0px;">Subject:Â LL-L Vocabulary</span></span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 40px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">Â </span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">I'm
doing some genealogical research from time to time.</span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">One
sort of information are printed documents from within the family.</span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">My
question is just this, are these types of documents also printed in other
lowland countries?</span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">And <strong><span style="font-family: Arial;">what names</span></strong> do they get locally?</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 40px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">Â </span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">I
list what is usual in my native region (with a roman catholic tradition):</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 40px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">Â </span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">Standard:</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 40px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">Â </span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">-
distributed during the church service for the burial:</span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;" lang="NL">Dutch:Â <strong><span style="font-family: Arial;">Bidprentje</span></strong>, Limburgish:Â <strong><span style="font-family: Arial;">doedsbildsje</span></strong>Â (doodsbeeldeke)Â
(mortuary card?)</span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">Since
2d part of 18th century, actually a collectors item traded at several fairs.</span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">The
old ones had a religious picture on front, and a text with some elements of the
persons life combined with religious texts at the backside.</span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">More
modern ones are double size and folded, with often a facial picture of the
deceased, when still healthy, and a short poem inside.</span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">All
with the name of the deceased, dates and place of birth and death, as also the
name of the (eventually deceased) spouse,</span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">and
at the bottom the 4 family names (parents of both deceased and spouse)</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 40px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">Â </span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">-
mailed ahead of the burial service and often distributed in all/most mailboxes
of the parish of the deceased.</span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">Dutch: <strong><span style="font-family: Arial;">rouwbrief,</span></strong> Limburgish: <strong><span style="font-family: Arial;">doedsbrief </span></strong>(doodsbrief)Â
(mourning card?)</span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">Is
basically an invitation for the church service.</span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">with
the name of the deceased, dates and place of birth and death, as also the name
of the (eventually deceased) spouse,</span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">with
the name of all children, their spouses, the grandchildren</span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">as
also brothers and sisters, including brothers ans sisters in law of bot
deceased and spouse.</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 40px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">Â </span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">-
the latter may also be published in full or with reduced content in
newspapers.</span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">In
some regions (e.g. Belgian Limburg) a photograph of the deceased is very often
added.</span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">Generally
named "<strong><span style="font-family: Arial;">Rouwberichten</span></strong>",
"<strong><span style="font-family: Arial;">Familieberichten</span></strong>"</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 40px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">Â </span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">While
compositions with <strong><span style="font-family: Arial;">dood-</span></strong> are
current in spoken language, one tries to avoid the word in written language.</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 40px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">Â </span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">Some
people have a special version of their visting card for condoleances.</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 40px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">Â </span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">In
my family in use since about 1930:</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 40px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">Â </span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">-
memory print for the first communion (at 6 years) "Eerste Heilige
Communie"</span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">with
a religious picture on front (often a child receiving communion),</span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">name,
date of the communion, and kitchy poetry on the backside</span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">("<strong><span style="font-family: Arial;">bildsje</span></strong>")</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 40px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">Â </span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">-
memory print for the holy communion (at 12 years) "Plechtige Heilige
Communie"</span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">with
a religious picture on front (often a child receiving communion),,</span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">name,
date of the communion, and kitchy poetry on the backside.</span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">("<strong><span style="font-family: Arial;">bildsje</span></strong>")</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 40px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">Â </span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">-
invitation for a marriage</span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">("<strong><span style="font-family: Arial;">trouwbrief</span></strong>")</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 40px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">Â </span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">-
menu of the dinner at the occasion of the marriage.</span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">(often
these circulated and were signed by all the paricipants at the dinner)</span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">("<strong><span style="font-family: Arial;">menu</span></strong>")</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 40px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">Â </span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">In
my family in use since about 1950:</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 40px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">Â </span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">-
announcement of a birth</span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">("<strong><span style="font-family: Arial;">gebortekeutsje</span></strong>",
geboortekaartje)</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 40px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">Â </span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">Rarely</span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">-
printed version of the <strong><span style="font-family: Arial;">menu </span></strong>for
the first communion</span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">A
bit more often</span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">-
printed version of the <strong><span style="font-family: Arial;">menu </span></strong>for
the holy communion</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 40px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">Â </span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">Generaly
just one copy at the moment of "<strong><span style="font-family: Arial;">confirmation</span></strong>"</span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">with
a picture of the local bishop in front</span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">and
the name of the confirmand and date handwritten at the back withing a
preprinted text.</span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">This
was generally a bulk service every two years for several parishes together, for
consideration of the agenda of the acting bishop I think.</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 40px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">Â </span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">Other:</span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">For
some church services (burial or marriage) a special <strong><span style="font-family: Arial;">booklet</span></strong> may be printed with the
selection of texts for that service.</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 40px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">Â </span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">Imitations.</span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">mortuary
cards and mourning cards are often imitated by student clubs and by the
military at the end of their term.</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 40px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">Â </span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">A
related question is:</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 40px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">Â </span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">at
what occasions in the family <strong><span style="font-family: Arial;">group
pictures</span></strong>Â are taken.</span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">In
my family it is almost limited to marriages and golden marriages (50 years of
marriages)</span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">Never
with burials, although the extended family normally attends a coffee table
after the burial.</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 40px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">Â </span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">in
schools group picture of the class may be taken,</span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">but
I don't have this for all years.</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 40px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">Â </span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">last
week to my surprise it was also done in the UK for just a 2-day seminar,</span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">cf.
p. 5 on url <a href="http://www.euro-support.be/rtpdf/cam.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.euro-support.be/rtpdf/cam.pdf</a></span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">(I'm
second from the left in the front row)</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 40px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">Â </span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">Regards,</span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">Roger</span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Â </span></p>
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