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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" align="center"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="PT-BR">===========================================<br>
L O W L A N D S - L - 28 February 2009 - Volume 02<br>
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From: <span class="ep8xu"><span style="color: rgb(0, 104, 28);">Luc Hellinckx</span></span></span><span class="hccdpe"> </span><span class="ldacoc"><<a href="mailto:luc.hellinckx@gmail.com">luc.hellinckx@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
Subject: <span class="hccdpe">LL-L "History"<br>
<br>
</span>Beste Ron,</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Â </span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">You wrote:</span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size: 11pt;"><br></span></i></p><div style="margin-left: 40px; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><i><span style="font-size: 11pt;">
<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">I wrote in connection with Swedish claims outside today's </span>Sweden<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"> that </span>Sweden<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
occupied a region in what is now </span>Northeastern Germany<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">.</span></span></i><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><i style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">
</span></i><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><i style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">
During the Thirty Year War (1618–1648) Sweden
did indeed occupy most of the coast of what is now the German state of
Mecklenburg – Western Pomerania.</span></i><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><i style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">
</span></i><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><i style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">
In addition, Sweden
occupied a coastal area from the southern bank of the Lower Elbe to about
Eastern Friesland in today's German state of Lower Saxony, an area that
bordered on Hamburg.</span></i><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><i style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">
</span></i><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><i style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">
Please take a look at the light blue areas on this map of the situation
of 1648:</span></i><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><i style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">
</span></i><span style="font-size: 11pt;"><a style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);" href="http://tinyurl.com/c5oo5m" target="_blank"><i>http://tinyurl.com/c5oo5m</i></a></span></div>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Â </span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Not only
that, but the family name "Van Swieten" and "Van Zwieten"
can be traced back to at least the 15th century in Southern Holland. It's
believed that their ancestors hailed from Sweden.</span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Â </span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">On a more
positive note, Sweden
cà n lift our spirits too (well, mine anyway *s*). </span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Take a look
at Göran Kropp. Guy from Southern Sweden who took his bicycle out of the shed
in 1995...said to himself: well, the weather looks fine, let's ride to
Qomolangma (</span><i><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="BO">ཇོ་མོ་གླང་མ</span></i><i><span style="font-size: 11pt;">, </span></i><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Mount Everest</span><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> in Tibetan), and climb it. He took
all the stuff he might need on his bike, and started cycling...arrived at the
foot of the mountain, mocked all the other guys who were climbing with oxygen
and sherpa's...the other guys made fun of him and let him blaze the trail...he
did so...in one go...stopped 300 m short of the summit, and returned, saying
that it would be too dangerous to climb it right then...couple of weeks later,
he did, walked back down...took up his bike again and cycled back home...that's
my kind of guy, a modern Viking indeed *s*.</span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Â </span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">However...later
on, he moved to Seattle...but
died while trying<i>Â </i>to climb Frenchman Coulee in 2002.</span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Â </span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Kind
greetings,</span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Â </span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Luc
Hellinckx, Halle</span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Â </span></p>
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