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L O W L A N D S - L - 05 March 2009 - Volume 03<br>
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From: <span><span style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25);">James Wilson</span></span></span><span> </span><span><<a href="mailto:jawi2300@gmail.com" target="_blank">jawi2300@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
Subject: <span>LL-L "Etymology" 2009.03.04 (04) [E]<br>
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</span>Take a peek at at this link <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bagpipes" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bagpipes</a><br>
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James <br>
København</p>
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From: <span><span style="color: rgb(0, 104, 28);"><a href="mailto:clarkedavid8@aol.com" target="_blank">clarkedavid8@aol.com</a></span></span></span><br>
Subject: <span>LL-L "Etymology" 2009.03.04 (01) [E</span><br>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; margin-left: 40px; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">From: <a href="mailto:clarkedavid8@aol.com" target="_blank">clarkedavid8@aol.com</a><br>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2009.03.03 (04) [E</span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; margin-left: 40px; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">There has
been quite a lot in the British press this last week about how cricket was
originally a game played by Flemish weavers, who brought it to England in the
Middle Ages. In fact, there is also evidence of golf and bagpipes (commonly
supposed to be Scottish inventions) in Flemish paintings. I suspect that all
these games and pastimes were present in some form throughout Europe
at one time, but were forgotten and then reintroduced. Surely football
and rugby are English inventions, though (although I once heard of a
Russian who thought that football must be Russian because the Russian word
"futbol" is declined like a normal Russian noun, unlike obviously
foreign imports such as "vino", which is indeclinable)?</span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Fish and chips, too, are apparently a Belgian invention that was introduced to
the British Isles in the 19th century.<br>
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David Clarke<span style="color: black;"></span></span></p>
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From: <span><span style="color: rgb(200, 137, 0);">Mike Morgan</span></span><span> </span><span><<a href="mailto:mwmosaka@gmail.com" target="_blank">mwmosaka@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
Subject: <span>LL-L "Etymology" 2009.03.04 (01) [E]</span><br>
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On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Lowlands-L List <<a href="mailto:lowlands.list@gmail.com" target="_blank">lowlands.list@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:</p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 40px; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">I once heard of a Russian who thought that football must be
Russian because the Russian word "futbol" is declined like a normal
Russian noun, unlike obviously foreign imports such as "vino", which
is indeclinable)?</span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Actually
vino IS delinable... grammatically speakign at least! (If it is good
Georgianwine then it is certainly much harder to decline).</span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Although
Modern Standard Russina DOES have a large number of indeclinable borrowed
words, mots of which end in sounds that don't readily fit into the Russian
scheme of things (i.e. masculaine nouns end in consonants, feminines in -a and
Neuters in -o or unstressed -e). /Vino/ is a MUCH older borrowing, and
fits perfectly with the system so is declined. in older Russian (for example if
you read soem of the classics from the nineteenth century) or in dialects, some
indeclinables do in fact alos decline, being MADE o fit in (for example
standard /kofe/ 'coffee' mhich is masculine was (is) often /kofej/ (with the
/j/ being IPA /j/ NOT English 'j').</span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">But of
course there ARe enough examples of borrowings being indeclinable to make
soemone believe that declineables MUST be native perhaps ... at least if one
didn't stop to think about it too long ...</span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Mike Morgan</span></p>
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