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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" align="center"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">===========================================<br>
L O W L A N D S - L - 25 March 2009 - Volume 03<br>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">From: <span class="gd"><span style="color: rgb(0, 104, 28);">Theo Homan</span></span></span><span class="gi"> </span><span class="go"><<a href="mailto:theohoman@yahoo.com">theohoman@yahoo.com</a>></span><br>
Subject: <span class="gi">LL-L "Etymology" 2009.03.25 (01) [E/German]</span><br>
<br>
> From: R. F. Hahn <<a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com">sassisch@yahoo.com</a>><br>
> Subject: Etymology<br>
[...]<br>
> This goes back to Old Saxon kniobeda<br>
> ("knee-bid") 'act of begging or praying on<br>
> one's knees', as in the Heliand:<br>
><br>
> thea uurekkion fellun te them kinde an kneobeda<br>
> ("The warriors fell to the child in/to/on<br>
> kneobeda")<br>
> The warriors fell onto their knees before the child and<br>
> prayed.<br>
><br>
> The verb is considered old enough to warrant an Old<br>
> Germanic reconstruction: *knewabedô.<br>
><br>
> Beda (Old Low Frankish beda, Old German beta)<br>
> 'act of begging or praying' goes back to Germanic<br>
> *bedô. This goes back to Indo-European<br>
><br>
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> *bhedh- which means<br>
> 'to bend (down)', 'to push (down)', 'to<br>
> suppress'. So praying was synonymous with begging or<br>
> pleading which implied bending down, supplication, a gesture<br>
> of physical submission.<br>
><br>
> Regards,<br>
> Reinhard/Ron<br>
> Seattle, USA<br>
<br>
Hello,<br>
<br>
[Sorry for all these strange characters, but that is how it's going during the
last weeks.]<br>
<br>
If I may add:<br>
I remember that a Roman wrote about the praying position of the Celts (in Eastern Europe), and this was a praying position that the
Romans didn't know of any other people wherever on the world, and this praying
position was...: on the knees and the hands folded.<br>
<br>
Well, this does not include that the Germans didn't have the same praying
position, but was *knewabeda just 'asking' or also 'pray'?<br>
<br>
<a href="http://vr.gr/" target="_blank">vr.gr</a>.<br>
<span style="color: rgb(136, 136, 136);">Theo Homan</span></p>
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