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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" align="center"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">===========================================<br>
L O W L A N D S - L - 25 March 2009 - Volume 01<br>
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<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">From: <span class="gd"><span style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25);">Kevin &
Cheryl Caldwell</span></span></span><span class="gi"> </span><span class="go"><<a href="mailto:kevin.caldwell1963@verizon.net">kevin.caldwell1963@verizon.net</a>></span><br>
Subject: <span class="gi">LL-L "Etymology" 2009.03.24 (05) [E]</span><br>
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<span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">English also has a word derived from the Greek root
you list below: genuflect = to bow by kneeling.</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt;"></span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Kevin Caldwell</span><span style="font-size: 11pt;"></span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Laurel</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">, MD,
USA</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"></span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span></p>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">From: <span class="gd"><span style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25);">Kevin & Cheryl Caldwell</span></span></span><span class="gi"> </span><span class="go"><<a href="mailto:kevin.caldwell1963@verizon.net">kevin.caldwell1963@verizon.net</a>></span><br>
Subject: <span class="gi">LL-L "Etymology" 2009.03.24 (05) [E]</span><br>
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From: Hannelore Hinz <<a href="mailto:HanneHinz@t-online.de" target="_blank">HanneHinz@t-online.de</a>></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Subject:
LL-L "Etymology" 2009.03.24 (05) [E]</span></p>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Beste
Freunde,</span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="DE">das ist gar nicht so einfach ...</span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="DE"> </span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="DE">Literatur: MATTHIAS LEXERS MITTELHOCHDEUTSCHES TASCHENWÖRTERBUCH
DREISSIGSTE AUFLAGE S. HIRZEL VERLAG LEIPZIG 1962</span></p>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="DE">knie </span></strong><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="DE">stn.: starkes
neutr. (gen.: genetiv/genetivisch <em>kniewes,
knies</em> pl.<em>kniewe, knie) </em>knie
von menschen und tieren.</span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="DE">knie-beten </span></strong><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="DE">swv.: schwaches
verb. kniend beten.</span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="DE">knie-valen</span></strong><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="DE"> swv.: auf die
knie fallen.</span></p>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="DE">Wossidlo/Teuchert Mecklenburgisches Wörterbuch</span></p>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="DE">Knei, </span></strong><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="DE">-ee m., das hd.
Verb "knien" gibt es nicht auf Mäkelborgsch, dafür folgende
Fassung: <em>inne Knei sitten, uppe Knei
liggen, inne Knei gahn, inne Knei knicken </em>knien.</span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="DE">Gelöbnis:<em> ick will up
minen bloten Knei fallen un danken Gott un minen Schöpfer.</em></span></p>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="DE">Kneibäd'/Kneebäd'</span></strong><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="DE"> <em>vör eenen don </em>jem. kniefällig
bitten.</span></p>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="DE">Knie </span></strong><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="DE"></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><em><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="DE">Karl Lagerfeld (Modeschöpfer, geb.1938 )</span></em><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="DE"></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="DE">Der emanzipierten Frau ins Stammbuch: Wer Ellbogen zeigt,
kann auch Knie zeigen.</span></p>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><em><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="DE">Wieslaw Brudzinski (polnischer Aphoristiker, 1920
geb.) </span></em><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="DE"></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="DE">Auf den Knien kommt man unter Umständen sehr weit.</span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="DE"> </span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><em><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="DE">Gerhard Uhlenbruck (Aphoristiker, geb. 1929)</span></em><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="DE"> </span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="DE">Lügen haben kurze Beine, aber weiche Knie.</span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="DE"> </span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="DE">Grüße mit aufrechtem Gang.</span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="DE">Hanne</span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="DE"> </span></p>
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From: R. F. Hahn <<a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com">sassisch@yahoo.com</a>><br>Subject: Etymology<br><br>Thanks, Kevin and Hanne.<br><br>The Indo-European root is *<i>ĝenu</i>- ~ *<i>ĝneu</i>- 'angle', 'corner', 'knee'.<br>
<br>Hannelore mentioned Middle Saxon:<br><br></span></p><div style="margin-left: 40px; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"><b>knie-beten</b> swv.: schwaches verb. kniend beten.</span><br>
<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"><br>This goes back to Old Saxon <i>kniobeda </i>("knee-bid") 'act of begging or praying on one's knees', as in the <i>Heliand</i>:<br>
<br><i>thea uurekkion fellun te them kinde an kneobeda</i><br>("The warriors fell to the child in/to/on kneobeda")<br>The warriors fell onto their knees before the child and prayed.<br><br>The verb is considered old enough to warrant an Old Germanic reconstruction: *<i>knewabedô</i>.<br>
<br><i>Beda </i>(Old Low Frankish beda, Old German beta) 'act of begging or praying' goes back to Germanic *<i>bedô</i>. This goes back to Indo-European </span><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><meta name="ProgId" content="Word.Document"><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 11"><meta name="Originator" content="Microsoft Word 11"><link rel="File-List" href="file:///C:%5CDOCUME%7E1%5Crhahn%5CLocal%20Settings%5CTemp%5Cmsohtml1%5C01%5Cclip_filelist.xml"><style>
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