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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;" align="center"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="PT-BR">===========================================<br>
L O W L A N D S - L - 04 April 2009 - Volume 04<br>
===========================================</span></p>
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From: <span class="gd"><span style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25);">Marcel Bas</span></span><span class="gi"> </span><span class="go"><<a href="mailto:roepstem@hotmail.com">roepstem@hotmail.com</a>></span><br>
Subject: <span class="gi">LL-L "Etymology" 2009.04.04 (03) [A]</span><br>
<br>
Goeienaand Petrus!<br>
<br>
</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="NL">Nee, ek dink nie so nie. S>R of R>S verander in die Germaanse tale
net in tussenposisies, soos by verskynsels van die Wet van Verner: verlie<strong><span style="font-family: Arial;">z</span></strong>en - verlo<strong><span style="font-family: Arial;">r</span></strong>en; bo<strong><span style="font-family: Arial;">s</span></strong>ús > ba<strong><span style="font-family: Arial;">r</span></strong>e. En in die Indiese tale verander S
in R, soos Indo-Europees *<em><span style="font-family: Arial;">kleuos</span></em>
> Sanskriet <em><span style="font-family: Arial;">srávas</span></em>.<br>
<br>
Nee, 'surt' is verwant met 'swart'. Nederlands 'zwart', Engels 'swarthy',
ens.<br>
<br>
Groete,<br>
<br>
Marcel.</span></p>
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<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="NL"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="NL">From: <span class="gd"><span style="color: rgb(0, 104, 28);">Hellinckx
Luc</span></span><span class="gi"> </span><span class="go"><<a href="mailto:luc.hellinckx@gmail.com">luc.hellinckx@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
Subject:<span class="gi"> LL-L "Etymology"</span><br>
<br>
Hoj Petrus,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="NL"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="NL">Je schreef:<br style="">
<br style="">
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;" lang="NL"><span style="word-spacing: 0px;">Wie kan my met
die volgende help? Ek stel baie belang in die Germaanse Vuurreus <i>Surtr,
Surt,  Surtur</i> of <i>Surthr (</i>die Swarte<i>). </i>Maar
nou het ek ’n vraag of drie!</span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="NL"></span></p>
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</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="NL"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 47.75pt; text-indent: -0.25in;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);" lang="NL">1)      Is die woord <i>roet</i> (Duits <i>Russ</i>)
verwant aan <i>Surtr</i>?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 47.75pt; text-indent: -0.25in;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);" lang="NL">2)      Is die woord <i>roes</i> of <i>roest</i> (Duits <i>Rost</i>)
verwant aan <i>Surtr</i>?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 47.75pt; text-indent: -0.25in;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);" lang="NL">3)       Is die woord <i>rooi </i>of <i>rood</i> (Duits <i>rot</i>)
verwant aan <i>Surtr</i>?</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="NL"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.25in;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="NL"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="NL">Ik denk dat "Surt" gewoon verwant is met
"zwart", en niet met de drie andere. Ook niet met zoet (B), soot (E)
dus, wat een ouder woord voor "roet" is.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="NL">Benevens "swart" en "swarthy" is in
het Engels op een hoger niveau ook "sordid" familie, via Latijn
"sordidus" (= vuil). </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="NL">Proto-Indo-Europese wortel is *sword0-.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="NL"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="NL">Groetjes,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="NL"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Luc
Hellinckx<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">From: R. F.
Hahn <<a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com" target="_blank">sassisch@yahoo.com</a>>
<br>
Subject: Etymology<br style="">
<br style="">
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Incidentally,
also related to <i>surtr</i> is Latin √<i>sord</i>- as in <i>sordēre</i> ‘to become
dirty’, <i>sordes</i> ‘filth’, ‘meanness’, hence also English “sordid”.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Reinhard/Ron</span></p>
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