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L O W L A N D S - L - 04 April 2009 - Volume 02<br>
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From: <span class="gd"><span style="color: rgb(0, 104, 28);"><a href="mailto:bsu295@bangor.ac.uk">bsu295@bangor.ac.uk</a></span></span></span><br>
Subject: <span class="gi">LL-L "Language varieties" 2009.04.03 (01) [E]</span><br>
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Hello Other Lowlanders,<br>
<br>
If truth be told I would consider Shetlandic to be a seperate Language from
what I know and what I understand of it. However I am some what new to all this
Language business. My back ground is as a Zoologist and Conservationist with a
more genetics based back ground. So Languages are newish to me. I have really
only just become interested over the past few years. So hence my opions and my
back ground knowledge is limited.<br>
<br>
I do agree that there are some very distinct differnces between other Lallans
varieties and Both Shetlandic and Orcadian, and from what I know of it it does
seam to hold alot more Scandanavian, both Norn and potentially more modern
Scandanavian words due to more recent dealings, in the same way Northumbrian is
associated with Danish and too Lancastrian and Cumbrian hold alotof old Norsk
words. I would be more tempted to put at least Insular Scots as a seperate
Language, with the two forms being Dialects. However I have even less knowledge
of Orcadian. Its is most probable that both Orcadian and Shetlandic could
beclssed as two seperate Languages, espcially due to there isolation. Howvever
I am unsure.<br>
<br>
One problem with it does remain however. I was recently reading about how many
Ullans fowk still seek for there Ulsters scots to be classed as a seperate
language from scots. I understand their view as I know that I would love
Lancastrian and all other English Dialects to have more recognition and
potentially to gain Languagre statues. This has happened to a large extent
through-out the Iberian peninsula. Which truthfully
I find great. It is much easier to preserve a way of speach (wether
actually a language or a dialect) if they are classed as a language. Although
with the state that Scots isin at the moment I think to push for such a change
is incomprehensible. There may be great numbers of speaks of scots, in the same
way there are probly millions of folk who would be considered Speakers of Gud
owld Lanky (Lancastrian), but the way they speak is far from what it once was. With
each generation comes a greater assimilation with standard English (that meks
us reet Miffed). Hence I find the idea of segregating themselves insane. The
language wouldnt survive on its own, and in all truth of the matter Idoubt
insular scots would neither. Its a great shame I do think.<br>
<br>
This is what has and is still happeningto the English Dialects.<br>
Everyone wants to preserve them but its next to impossible to do so.<br>
<br>
With this in mind and Shetlndic aside, are any of you involved in any such
group in England that deals with poreserving a local dialect, such as FOND
(Friend Of Norffolk Dialect) or Lancashire dialect sosiety or Northumbrian
dialect society (I dont know what its called)? I am curious as to speak to them
about what things are in place and being used in such schemes? And I would like
to know if there are actually and joint efforts between the groups orif there
ever was any past colaborations. Sorry to stear completely away from the
original subject.<br>
<br>
Anyway, Please do tell me more,<br>
Hope you are all well<br>
<br>
Gregg <span style="color: rgb(153, 51, 0);">[Ashcroft]</span></p>
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</span><span style="font-size: 11pt;">From: R. F. Hahn <<a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com" target="_blank">sassisch@yahoo.com</a>> <br>
Subject: Language varieties<br>
<br>
Hi, Gregg!<br>
<br>
I believe this is a debut for you as well. Congratulations, thanks and welcome! It's great you joined us.<br>
<br>
Most likely you’ll find that zoological and linguistic genealogy share more than
you expected.</span></p>
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Regards,<br>
Reinhard/Ron<br>
Seattle, USA</span><span style="font-size: 11pt;"></span></p>
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