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<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; text-align: center; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" align="center"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">===========================================<br>
L O W L A N D S - L - 10 April 2009 - Volume 03<br>
===========================================</span></p>
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From: <span class="gd"><span style="color: rgb(0, 104, 28);">Roger Thijs, Euro-Support, Inc.</span></span></span><span class="gi"> </span><span class="go"><<a href="mailto:roger.thijs@euro-support.be">roger.thijs@euro-support.be</a>></span><br>
Subject: <span class="gi">LL-L Technica</span><br>
<br>
It happens that contributions sent to the list are reformatted when received.</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Â </span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">As for
spacing between paragraphs it may go both ways:</span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Â </span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">1 - spacing
added between lines</span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"><a href="http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/sfo/1sent.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/sfo/1sent.jpg</a></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"><a href="http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/sfo/1rcvd.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/sfo/1rcvd.jpg</a></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Â </span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">2 - spacing
between paragraphs deleted</span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"><a href="http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/sfo/2sent.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/sfo/2sent.jpg</a></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"><a href="http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/sfo/2rcvd.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/sfo/2rcvd.jpg</a></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Â </span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">In my
previous life, at the beginning of internet communications, this happened
frequently as a result of Unix-DOS conversions:</span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Â </span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><em><span style="font-size: 11pt;">cf. </span></em><span style="font-size: 11pt;"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newline" target="_blank"><em>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newline</em></a></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">ï‚·<span style="">Â </span><i>LF</i><em>:</em><i>Â Â Â </i><em> </em><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multics" target="_blank" title="Multics"><em>Multics</em></a><em>, </em><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix" target="_blank" title="Unix"><em>Unix</em></a><em> and </em><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix-like" target="_blank" title="Unix-like"><em>Unix-like</em></a><em> systems (</em><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU" target="_blank" title="GNU"><em>GNU</em></a><em>/</em><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux" target="_blank" title="Linux"><em>Linux</em></a><em>, </em><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIX_operating_system" target="_blank" title="AIX operating system"><em>AIX</em></a><em>, </em><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenix" target="_blank" title="Xenix"><em>Xenix</em></a><em>, </em><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X" target="_blank" title="Mac OS X"><em>Mac OS X</em></a><em>, </em><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeBSD" target="_blank" title="FreeBSD"><em>FreeBSD</em></a><em>, etc.), </em><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BeOS" target="_blank" title="BeOS"><em>BeOS</em></a><em>, </em><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amiga" target="_blank" title="Amiga"><em>Amiga</em></a><em>, </em><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RISC_OS" target="_blank" title="RISC OS"><em>RISC OS</em></a><em>, and others </em></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">ï‚·<span style="">Â </span><i>CR</i><em>+</em><i>LF</i><em>: </em><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Equipment_Corporation" target="_blank" title="Digital Equipment Corporation"><em>DEC</em></a><em>
</em><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT-11" target="_blank" title="RT-11"><em>RT-11</em></a><em> and most other early non-Unix, non-IBM OSes, </em><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CP/M" target="_blank" title="CP/M"><em>CP/M</em></a><em>, </em><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MP/M" target="_blank" title="MP/M"><em>MP/M</em></a><em>, </em><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOS" target="_blank" title="DOS"><em>DOS</em></a><em>,
</em><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OS/2" target="_blank" title="OS/2"><em>OS/2</em></a><em>, </em><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Windows" target="_blank" title="Microsoft Windows"><em>Microsoft Windows</em></a><em>, </em><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbian_OS" target="_blank" title="Symbian OS"><em>Symbian OS</em></a><em> </em></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">ï‚·<span style="">Â </span><i>CR</i><em>:</em><i>Â Â Â </i><em> </em><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_International" target="_blank" title="Commodore International"><em>Commodore</em></a><em> machines, </em><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_II_family" target="_blank" title="Apple II family"><em>Apple II family</em></a><em>, </em><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_history" target="_blank" title="Mac OS history"><em>Mac OS</em></a><em> up to </em><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_9" target="_blank" title="Mac OS 9"><em>version 9</em></a><em> and </em><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OS-9" target="_blank" title="OS-9"><em>OS-9</em></a>
</span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Â </span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">The old
teletype machines (and telexes) separated both functions:</span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">CR:
carriage return: go back to the beginning of the line (and overtype eventually)</span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">LF: line
feed: advance to next line (not necessarily with repositioning at the beginning
of the line)</span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Designers
of operating systems (as e.g. Unix and MS-DOS) gave their own interpretation.</span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Combining
CR+LF into a single ASCII character contributed to reducing the size of the old
txt files (communication cost charging was often based on number of characters,
including control characters, transmitted)</span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Â </span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">So one had
to take care when routing over several systems.</span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">At the time
we had little programs replacing CRLF with LF or vice versa in documents we
received in txt format. </span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Momentarily
most of us work on Windows/DOS alike systems.</span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Servers
operate mostly under Windows <strong>OR</strong>
Unix.</span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">This may
explain.</span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Â </span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="font-size: 11pt;">It
is curious that for lowlands list the effect is not consistent.</span></strong><span style="font-size: 11pt;"></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Sometimes
blank lines are added.</span></strong><span style="font-size: 11pt;"></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="font-size: 11pt;">At
other moments intended blank lines are deleted.</span></strong><span style="font-size: 11pt;"></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Â </span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Advice is
appreciated for as far as we, as sender, can do anything for keeping our
messages under control of layout.</span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Â </span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Regards,</span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Roger</span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">PS. This is
how this message looks before beig sent: <a href="http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/sfo/lldraft.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/sfo/lldraft.jpg</a></span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"><br>
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<br>
From: R. F. Hahn <</span><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="IT"><a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com" target="_blank"><span style="" lang="EN-US">sassisch@yahoo.com</span></a></span><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> <br>
Subject: Technica<br>
<br>
Hi, Roger!<br>
<br>
I suppose this reformatting occurs when I reset all text to single line with no
space before or after a paragraph. Some people space their contributions in 1.5
or 2 line format and have their programs allocated space before and/or after a
paragraph. What happens if I leave that as it is is that <i>everything</i> will
take on that "special" formatting, i.e. also other people's
contributions, the masthead, footer, etc.<br>
<br>
So, to avoid any reformatting I recommend that everybody as much as possible
use single-line format without extra space before and after paragraphs. Also, I
recommend using Arial or Arial Unicode font.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Reinhard/Ron<br>
Seattle, USA</span></p>
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