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<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="gI"><span class="gD" style="color: rgb(0, 104, 28);">Roger Thijs, Euro-Support, Inc.</span> <span class="go"><<a href="mailto:roger.thijs@euro-support.be">roger.thijs@euro-support.be</a>></span></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="gI">LL-L Travels, was Re: LL-L "Resources" 2009.04.15 (06) [E/French]<br><br>
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<div><font size="2"><em>> From: <span><span style="color: rgb(0, 104, 28);">Hellinckx Luc</span> <span><<a href="mailto:luc.hellinckx@gmail.com" target="_blank">luc.hellinckx@gmail.com</a>></span></span><br>>
Subject: </em></font><font size="2"><em><span>LL-L
"Resources"<br></span>> You probably got to learn there's 3 versions of
"Marols" because of the Lowlands-link here:</em></font></div>
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<div><font size="2"><em>> </em></font><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marols" target="_blank"><font size="2"><em>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marols</em></font></a></div>
<div><font size="2"><em>> that points to a message that Roger Thijs once sent
to Georg Deutsch:</em></font></div>
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<div><font size="2">I had some languages pages on the web once.</font></div>
<div><font size="2">Here is the back-up of two of them referring to
Marols.</font></div>
<div><font size="2">Do not point to them, I just loaded them in a temporary
directory:</font></div>
<div><a href="http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/brussel2.htm" target="_blank"><font size="2">http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/brussel2.htm</font></a><font size="2">Â </font></div>
<div><a href="http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/brussel3.htm" target="_blank"><font size="2">http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/brussel3.htm</font></a></div>
<div><font size="2">With respectively a Dutch-Brabantish, a French and a Walloon
Brussels text.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2">I will come back to Brussels local language in a few
days.</font></div>
<div><font size="2">A scientific judgement:</font></div>
<div><font size="2"><strong>Sera de Vriendt</strong> (professor emeritus of both
Brussels universities ULB, French, and VUB, Dutch)</font></div>
<div><strong><font size="2">"A propos du sens de l'expression "parler
bruxellois""</font></strong></div>
<div><font size="2">p. 85-100 with summaries in Dutch p 101 and in English p
102</font></div>
<div><font size="2">in "Brusselse Thema's", vol 7, 2001, VUB Press</font></div>
<div><font size="2">A scan of the summary in English:</font></div>
<div><a href="http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/102.jpg" target="_blank"><font size="2">http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/102.jpg</font></a></div>
<div><font size="2">Brussels French and Brussels Walloon <strong>in
litterature</strong> are artificial combinations of errors made by several
distinct people, combined in one basket, as if one person would systematically
combine these characteristics.</font></div>
<div><font size="2">I will come back to this in a few days.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2">I did a tour in the Marollen this evening and I want to share
some pictures.</font></div>
<div><font size="2">It was a grey sky, it may look a bit unenjoyable.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2">Locating the area:</font></div>
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<div><font size="2">The Brussels region (19 municipalities) is basically inside
the big loop of motorways on this map:</font></div>
<div><a href="http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/bru1.jpg" target="_blank"><font size="2">http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/bru1.jpg</font></a></div>
<div><font size="2">The core of the <strong>proper municipaly of Brussels</strong>
is the orange pentagone, squares S-14-S-15</font></div>
<div><font size="2">The <strong>Marollen</strong> is at the South side. Keep
<strong>"Pl Louise"</strong> in S-15 for further orientation.</font></div>
<div><font size="2">(On this map one also sees the <strong>Africa museum in
Tervuren,</strong> square V-15)</font></div>
<div><font size="2">(See also the name <strong>Stokkel </strong>on the map on the
bottom of squares T-14 and U-14 I eventually come back to Stokkel this week-end.
Stokkel has a Terminus Metro station for line 1. Every Metro-Station in Brussels
has its own design. The one of Stokkel is dedicated to <strong>Hergé</strong>
and full of <strong>TinTin</strong> pictures on the walls)</font></div>
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<div><font size="2">The area we are talking about is scanned more in detail
on:</font></div>
<div><a href="http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/bru2.jpg" target="_blank"><font size="2">http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/bru2.jpg</font></a></div>
<div><font size="2">The lower tip of the pentagone is marked
"Hallepoort"</font></div>
<div><font size="2">The B in a ring indicates a station of Belgian
Railways.</font></div>
<div><font size="2">One finds "<strong>Brussels-South"</strong> (Euro-star
terminus), <strong>Kapelle</strong> and (underground) <strong>Central
Station</strong>.</font></div>
<div><font size="2">Only a few trains stop in Kapelle.</font></div>
<div><font size="2">Roughly the area between the Kapelle railway station and the
Justice Palace lower on the map are the Marolles.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2">We list the pictures in the order of the tour we
made, purple arrows on url:</font></div>
<div><a href="http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/bru2tour.jpg" target="_blank"><font size="2">http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/bru2tour.jpg</font></a></div>
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<div><font size="2">We started from the metro station
<strong>Louise</strong>.</font></div>
<div><font size="2">The way to the Marollen is indicated (direction
<strong>Poelaertplein</strong> facing the Justice Palace)</font></div>
<div><a href="http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/1metro.jpg" target="_blank"><font size="2">http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/1metro.jpg</font></a></div>
<div><a href="http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/2just.jpg" target="_blank"><font size="2">http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/2just.jpg</font></a></div>
<div><font size="2">The Justice palace was constructed on a hill, intentionally
high above the "plebs" of the Marollen area.</font></div>
<div><font size="2">One goes down with an elevator:</font></div>
<div><a href="http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/3el.jpg" target="_blank"><font size="2">http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/3el.jpg</font></a></div>
<div><a href="http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/4el.jpg" target="_blank"><font size="2">http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/4el.jpg</font></a></div>
<div><a href="http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/5el.jpg" target="_blank"><font size="2">http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/5el.jpg</font></a></div>
<div><font size="2">5e.jpgl is a sight from within the
Hoogstraat.</font></div>
<div><font size="2">Main streets in the Marollen are the
<strong>Miniemenstraat</strong>, between the Justice palace and the elevator, in
parallel but lower the <strong>Hoogstraat</strong> and in parallel but further
lower the <strong>Blaesstraat</strong>.</font></div>
<div><font size="2">The <strong>Hoogstraat</strong> is marked in 3
languages:</font></div>
<div><a href="http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/6hoog.jpg" target="_blank"><font size="2">http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/6hoog.jpg</font></a></div>
<div><font size="2">And looking down the <strong>Spiegelstraat</strong> from
within the Hoogstraat one sees at the end of the straat a house of the
parallel Blaesstraat on </font><a href="http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/7hoog.jpg" target="_blank"><font size="2">http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/7hoog.jpg</font></a></div>
<div><font size="2">The <strong>Blaesstraat</strong> is becoming trendy, with a
mixed variety of business, some impressions:</font></div>
<div><a href="http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/8blaes.jpg" target="_blank"><font size="2">http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/8blaes.jpg</font></a></div>
<div><a href="http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/9blaes.jpg" target="_blank"><font size="2">http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/9blaes.jpg</font></a></div>
<div><a href="http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/10blaes.jpg" target="_blank"><font size="2">http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/10blaes.jpg</font></a></div>
<div><a href="http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/11blaes.jpg" target="_blank"><font size="2">http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/11blaes.jpg</font></a></div>
<div><a href="http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/12blaes.jpg" target="_blank"><font size="2">http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/12blaes.jpg</font></a></div>
<div><font size="2">A major square touching the Blaesstraat is the
<strong>Vossenplein</strong> (Jeu de Balle), with its <strong>famous flee market
every Sunday morning</strong> (as to the languages one hears there on a Sunday
morning it must be quite known in the Netherlands).</font></div>
<div><font size="2">It is very difficult to reach by car, there are a couple of
busses though:</font></div>
<div><a href="http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/13vos.jpg" target="_blank"><font size="2">http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/13vos.jpg</font></a></div>
<div><a href="http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/14vos.jpg" target="_blank"><font size="2">http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/14vos.jpg</font></a></div>
<div><font size="2">Some sights on this square:</font></div>
<div><a href="http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/15vos.jpg" target="_blank"><font size="2">http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/15vos.jpg</font></a></div>
<div><a href="http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/16vos.jpg" target="_blank"><font size="2">http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/16vos.jpg</font></a></div>
<div><a href="http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/17vos.jpg" target="_blank"><font size="2">http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/17vos.jpg</font></a></div>
<div><a href="http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/18vos.jpg" target="_blank"><font size="2">http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/18vos.jpg</font></a></div>
<div><font size="2">Going back up to the Hoogstraat through the
Sistervatstraat one has at one's right the Hellemans blocs (from 1906-1912),
once a kind of hometown, now restored:</font></div>
<div><a href="http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/19sister.jpg" target="_blank"><font size="2">http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/19sister.jpg</font></a></div>
<div><a href="http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/20sister.jpg" target="_blank"><font size="2">http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/20sister.jpg</font></a></div>
<div><a href="http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/21sister.jpg" target="_blank"><font size="2">http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/21sister.jpg</font></a></div>
<div><font size="2">Some impressions along the Hoogstraat:</font></div>
<div><a href="http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/22hoog.jpg" target="_blank"><font size="2">http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/22hoog.jpg</font></a></div>
<div><a href="http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/23hoog.jpg" target="_blank"><font size="2">http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/23hoog.jpg</font></a></div>
<div><font size="2">A sight of the elevator,</font></div>
<div><a href="http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/24el.jpg" target="_blank"><font size="2">http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/24el.jpg</font></a></div>
<div><font size="2">and one of the streets down at its side:</font></div>
<div><a href="http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/25el.jpg" target="_blank"><font size="2">http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/25el.jpg</font></a></div>
<div><font size="2">We are not taking the elevator though, but the Minimenstraat
to the North.</font></div>
<div><font size="2">We see a school in renovation:</font></div>
<div><a href="http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/26min.jpg" target="_blank"><font size="2">http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/26min.jpg</font></a></div>
<div><a href="http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/27min.jpg" target="_blank"><font size="2">http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/27min.jpg</font></a></div>
<div><font size="2">To my feeling "Kindertuin" is a Germanism
(Kindergarten).</font></div>
<div><font size="2">I'm rather used to kleuterschool, in Limburgish "papsjoeël",
often also the romanism "bewaarschool", cf. French "école
gardienne".</font></div>
<div><font size="2">Adjacent to the school is the church of the
"Miniemen".</font></div>
<div><a href="http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/28min.jpg" target="_blank"><font size="2">http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/28min.jpg</font></a></div>
<div><font size="2">A side street, the Kandelaarsstraat, has
nice naïve wall paintings,</font></div>
<div><font size="2">just two examples: Toots Thielemans and a seller of
snails:</font></div>
<div><a href="http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/29min.jpg" target="_blank"><font size="2">http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/29min.jpg</font></a></div>
<div><a href="http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/30min.jpg" target="_blank"><font size="2">http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/30min.jpg</font></a></div>
<div><font size="2">From the Zavel one looks down to the Our Lady of the Chapel
church</font></div>
<div><a href="http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/31zavel.jpg" target="_blank"><font size="2">http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/31zavel.jpg</font></a></div>
<div><font size="2">and up to the Our Lady of the Sand Church</font></div>
<div><a href="http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/32zavel.jpg" target="_blank"><font size="2">http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/32zavel.jpg</font></a></div>
<div><font size="2">A dead end side-street ("impasse" in French) houses some
artistic businesses</font></div>
<div><font size="2">and at the other end of the church one is on the main road
between the palace of Justice and the Royal square:</font></div>
<div><a href="http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/34zavel.jpg" target="_blank"><font size="2">http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/34zavel.jpg</font></a></div>
<div><font size="2">On this road on the left one has a museum with an exhibition
about Belgian comic strips momentarily running:</font></div>
<div><a href="http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/35mus.jpg" target="_blank"><font size="2">http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/35mus.jpg</font></a></div>
<div><a href="http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/36mus.jpg" target="_blank"><font size="2">http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/36mus.jpg</font></a></div>
<div><font size="2">(It is not falling backward, more a technical problem with my
camera, I guess)</font></div>
<div><font size="2">On the Royal square one has a sight on downtown Brussels
(tower of the town hall):</font></div>
<div><a href="http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/37kg.jpg" target="_blank"><font size="2">http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/37kg.jpg</font></a></div>
<div><font size="2">and in the middle of the square Godfried of Bouillon, once
king of Jerusalem now looking to downtown Brussels, is still tolerated in this
town with quite a large North-African poulation: </font><a href="http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/38kg.jpg" target="_blank"><font size="2">http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/marol/38kg.jpg</font></a></div>
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<div><font size="2">Hope this gives you people a feeling how the Marolles look
nowadays.</font></div>
<div><font size="2">Regards,</font></div>
<div><font size="2">Roger</font></div>
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