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<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="gI"><span class="gD" style="color: rgb(0, 104, 28);">Hellinckx Luc</span> <span class="go"><<a href="mailto:luc.hellinckx@gmail.com">luc.hellinckx@gmail.com</a>></span></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="gI"><span class="ik"></span>LL-L "Morphology"</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Beste Ron,</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<div>You wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite">I
am not suggesting that we should automatically assume Slavic origin
when words and suffixes are unique to Germanic varieties used in
formerly Slavic-speaking regions. But the <i>-ink ~ -ing</i> of Mecklenburg has an overridingly endearing quality like Slavic <i>-inka</i>,
and it is used just like it. Furthermore, its western boundary pretty
much coincides with that of the former western boundary of Slavic
varieties.</blockquote>Slavic -inka is a
curious suffix. There is so much similarity (both morphologically and
semantically) with Germanic -in, used to make a noun feminine plus the
diminutive -ken; the combination then has an endearing effect of
course. Hard to believe there has never been any mutual influence.
Radiation from West to East? Common root on a PIE-level?<div><br></div><div><font size="4"><span style="font-size: 14px;">Come to think of it...any idea whether Turkic "kara" and Russian </span></font><span><font size="4"><span style="font-size: 14px;">черный
for "black" could be related on an even higher level? Possible
connection with Lowlands: harder (fish living in the Atlantic</span><font size="4"><span style="font-size: 14px;">...</span></font><span style="line-height: 19px;"><font size="4"><span style="font-size: 14px;">Mugil curema...German Äsche).</span></font></span></font></span></div>
<div><br></div><div>Kind greetings,</div><div><br></div><div>Luc Hellinckx</div></div><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">----------</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From: R. F. Hahn <<a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com">sassisch@yahoo.com</a>><br>Subject: Etymology<br>
<br>I'm collapsing "Etymology" and "Morphology" because they seem to be converging.<br><br>Luc, I agree that it gets kind of "weird" when you look across language group boundaries for morphological commonalities. Actually, I'm pretty sure that in many such cases we are talking about connections on an Indo-European level. For instance, there is the Iranian approximative-diminutive <i>-ča</i>, borrowed into Turkic, sometimes as <i>-(i)nča</i>, which seems suspiciously like <i>-ka</i> and <i>-inka</i>.<br>
<br>And, yes, things often continue across family boundaries, both as far as roots and affixes are concerned, and the personal pronouns in Indo-European, Uralic and Altaic start looking very much alike when you "boil them down." No wonder people like Ilyich-Svitich postulated larger families. But for decades isolationist researchers have been dismissing anything promising as due to contacts, even within what to most people are definitely families (such as Altaic). The thing is that such possible connections seem to go so far back that proving them is pretty much impossible.<br>
<br>By the way, Luc, am I on the right track when I etymologize your last name (Hellinckx) as Halle+ing+s(e)? That's where the "person of ..." suffix <i>-ing</i> is that Paul mentioned. You still live in Halle (Belgium), don't you? No wonder you tend to get cabin fever and feel the need to go on very long "exotic" tours once in a while. ;-)<br>
<br>Regards,<br>Reinhard/Ron<br>Seattle, USA<br></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
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