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<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="gI"><span class="gD" style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25);">Roger Thijs, Euro-Support, Inc.</span> <span class="go"><<a href="mailto:roger.thijs@euro-support.be">roger.thijs@euro-support.be</a>></span></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="gI">LL-L "Language varieties" 2009.06.08 (06) [EN]<br><br></span><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="im">
<div>> From:
<span style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25);">Diederik Masure</span> <span><<a href="mailto:didimasure@hotmail.com" target="_blank">didimasure@hotmail.com</a>></span><br>> Subject: LL-L "Grammar"
2009.06.08 (04) [EN]<br><font size="2">> </font>And Roger, ne man, een vraa, e
kind with 3 different articles for each gender exists in every Brabantish
dialect, although feminine and neuter are starting to fall together into 'een'
with most younger people. <br>> This three-way declension
of articles usualyl also exists in Brabant for adjectives in long vowel or
diphthong + n, <br>ne kleine man, een klein vrou, e
klei kind, ne schoënen otto, een schoën vrou, e schoë vogelke/tje. Also here the
neuter forms seem to add the +n of the stem and feminine form again in younger
dialect. <br></div>
</div><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2">Does anyone have an idea why <strong>brother</strong> behaves
<strong>neuter:</strong></font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Â </div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2">In my West-Limburgish (Vliermaal)</font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Â </div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2">enne man</font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2">enne hond</font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2">enne platte keis</font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Â </div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2">e(i)n vrouw</font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2">e(i)n kat</font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2">e(i)n toffel</font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2">e(i)n vinster</font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2">e(i)n dauchter,</font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Â </div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2">ee keind, ee kinsje</font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2">ee vögelke, ee(n) appelke</font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2">ee(n) höske</font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2"><strong>ee bruur, mee bruur</strong> (a brother, my
brother)</font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Â </div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2">PS. I remember on the 4th class primary at the college of
Tongeren (+- age 10 years) we had to use our (Tongerlandish) dialect forms for
knowing the gender in French:</font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2">main vinster, ma fenêtre</font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2">There were a few traps: main bootter (fem), le beurre
(masc.)</font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2">We were also thought to reflect on the French form for
deciding between ei and ij in Dutch.</font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2">Le train -> de trein andt not de trijn.</font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2">I didn't check whether it is always correct. For me it was at
least an incentive to extend my language portefolio with rapidly
absorbing a second Limburgish variant (Tongerlandish). My first was
Lonerlandish from Vliermaal.</font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2">Contrary to the remainder of Belgian Limburg, Tongeren did
never belong to the County of Loon, but it was a direct dependency from the
principality of Liège. It was reputedly also germanized later than
core-Limburg.</font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Â </div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2">Regards,</font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2">Roger</font><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"></div><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
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