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<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="gI"><span class="gD" style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25);">Roger Hondshoven</span> <span class="go"><<a href="mailto:rhondshoven@yahoo.com">rhondshoven@yahoo.com</a>></span></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="gI">LL-L "Language varieties" 2009.06.13 (06) [EN]<br><br></span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Hello there KarlRein,</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Â <span style="color: rgb(0, 104, 28);"><a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:KarlRein@aol.com" target="_blank">KarlRein</a></span> wrote</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" color="#000000" face="Arial" size="2"><div><div style="margin-left: 40px; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">Please give us some sentences as examples.<br>
</div><br></div></font><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Just a couple of examples: </span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-style: italic; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Ze vader es gestorven. Mar zene pa leeft nog.</span><br style="font-style: italic; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-style: italic; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Me breu komt morgen. Ze zuster kan nie meekomen. Heur moeder es ziek. Heur vader es al langk geleën gestorven</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
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 The word '</span><span style="font-style: italic; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">moe' </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">is treated as a feminine noun before the poss. pron. </span><span style="font-style: italic; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">mijn (men) </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">and </span><span style="font-style: italic; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">zijn (zen)</span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">: e.g. </span><span style="font-style: italic; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">: Men/zen moe es in de kliniek</span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">. Neutral would have been: </span><span style="font-style: italic; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">me, ze. </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Before other possessive pronouns (</span><span style="font-style: italic; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">ons (ö:s), hun, uw (oer) </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">it wouldn't make any difference as neutral and feminine forms for these pronouns are exactly the same.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
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'Pa' is clearly masculine: </span><span style="font-style: italic; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Mene, oere (uw), heure, zene, onze (ö:ze), hunne pa.<br>
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</span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">As you will see, the situation is rathercomplicated .</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Kind regards,</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Â </div><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Roger Hondshoven</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Diest (East-Brabant) Belgium</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><div style="margin-left: 40px; color: rgb(0, 0, 153); font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2"><font style="background-color: transparent;" size="2">In
Getelands broer , moeder, vader en zuster are neutal when preceded by a
possessive pronoun. Pa en moe don't follow this rule. They are
respectively masculine and feminine.</font></font><br><font size="2"><font style="background-color: transparent;" size="2"> <div>Â </div>Roger Hondshoven</font></font><br><font size="2"><font style="background-color: transparent;" size="2">Diest (East-Brabant) Belgium</font></font><br>
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