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===========================================<br></div><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="gI"><span class="gD" style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25);">Roger Thijs, Euro-Support, Inc.</span> <span class="go"><<a href="mailto:roger.thijs@euro-support.be">roger.thijs@euro-support.be</a>></span></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="gI">LL-L "Resources" 2009.07.16 (05) [EN]<br><br></span><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<font size="2"><div class="im"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="NL">> From: R. F. Hahn
<<a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com" target="_blank">sassisch@yahoo.com</a>><br>> Subject: Resources</span><br></div><font size="3">> </font>Â I am just saying this
because I've heard some people say it's a Flemish story. ..</font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Â </div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2">Here is an excerpt of what I wrote in:</font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2" color="#0000ff">LL-L "Travels" 2009.03.29 (01) [E]</font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2">referring to a visit to Hamburg.</font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Â </div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2">*** quote ***</font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Â </div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<div><font size="2">I found a couple of books in the bookshop at the
<strong>Dammtor railway station</strong>, as well as some publicity for the
bookshops of "Buchhandlung Laatzen". I was intrigued in that prospectus by
this item: </font></div>
<div><font size="2">Charles De Coster, Ulenspiegel, 11 CDs etc. (Höredition NDR
Kultur).</font></div>
<div><font size="2">So I checked in the <strong>Laatzen bookshop</strong> in the
Esplanade street:</font></div>
<div><font size="2">It is all read in Hochdeutsch not in Platt!!!!!!!! O
Ulenspiegel, what did they do to you?</font></div>
<div><font size="2">Eulensiegel has several traditions. One playing around
<strong>Kneitlingen-Mölln</strong>, another playing around
<strong>Damme-Bruges.</strong></font></div>
<div><font size="2">At a time the Dutch-Flemish language was in decay in Belgium,
Charles de Coster rewrote the Belgian version in French in 1867, and this
version gained popularity and has been translated into several
languages.</font></div>
<div><font size="2">My reflexion: why did the NDR not record the original
version? and why not in Platt??</font></div>
<div><font size="2">I didn't buy the De Coster CD-junk. [</font><font size="2">...]</font></div>
<div>Â </div>
<div><font size="2">PS. The De Coster I have at home:</font></div>
<div><font size="2">- Charles De Coster, <strong>La légende et les aventures
héroiques joyeuses et glorieuses d'Ulenspiegel et de Lamme Goedzak au pays des
Flandres et ailleurs</strong> [1867],</font></div>
<div><font size="2">édition définitive établie et présentée par Joseph
Hanse,</font></div>
<div><font size="2">deuxième édition revue avec de nouvelles notes et
variantes,</font></div>
<div><font size="2">Bruxelles, La Renaissance du Livre, 1979, no ISBN, xxxi + 493
pp. (in French)</font></div>
<div><font size="2">De Coster replaced the story in the context of the fight for
freedom in the Netherlands in the 16th century, add to that a consistent thread
in the plot, good (French) writing skill and this may explain the popularity of
that edition.</font></div>
<div>Â </div>
<div><font size="2">An historical approach (starting with the
<strong>1510-1511</strong>Â manuscript by Bote can be found in:</font></div>
<div><font size="2">Jozef Janssens (and many others), <strong>Uilenspiegel, De
wereld op zijn kop</strong>, </font></div>
<div><font size="2">1999, Leuven, Davidsfonds, ISBN 90-6306-394-6, 272 pp. (in
Dutch)</font></div>
<div><font size="2"><font color="#0000ff">The first tradition with
<strong>Damme</strong> as place of events can apparently traced back to
<strong>1628</strong> with the publication of "Historie van Thijl Ulenspiegel".
It is a mofified (falsified) version printed in Antwerp of an original published
in Amsterdan in 1623Â by Broer Jansz.</font> </font></div>
<div>Â </div>
<div><font size="2">The 2 editions I have at home in Dutch all <strong>play
in Northern Germany</strong>:</font></div>
<div>Â </div>
<div><font size="2">- Ulenspiegel, Antwerpen <strong>1580</strong>, facsimile
verzorgd en van een inleiding voorzien door Dr. Loek Geeraerds, 1987, Anrwerpen,
Berghmans uitgevers, ISBN 90-70959-11-9, 43 pp + 62 pp facsimile (not
numbered) from an original from the Niedersächsische D-Staats- und
Universitätsbibliothek, Göttingen. The facsimile is set in a gothic type of
characters.</font></div>
<div><font size="2">(The oldest print in Dutch was apparently made by Michiel
Hillen van Hoochstraten, not dated, but to be positioned <strong>between 1518
and 1545</strong>)</font></div>
<div>Â </div>
<div><font size="2">- Wonderbaarlijke en zeldzame Historie van Thyl Ulenspiegel,
1996, Leuven, Davidsfonds, ISBN 90-6306-349-0, 128 pp.It is a version in
modernised orthography of the publication by J.H. De Lange in Deventer
<strong>around 1790</strong>.</font></div>
<div><font size="2">I think one takes the cream from the cake when
modernizing orthography.</font></div></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Â </div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2">*** end quote ***</font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Â </div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2">Regards,</font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2">Roger</font></div><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
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