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===========================================<br></div><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="gI"><span class="gD" style="color: rgb(0, 104, 28);">Hellinckx Luc</span> <span class="go"><<a href="mailto:luc.hellinckx@gmail.com">luc.hellinckx@gmail.com</a>></span></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="gI">LL-L "Names"<br><br></span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Beste Ron,</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
The VOC (Dutch East India Company) kept track of all their logistics
during the 17th and 18th century, including passengers on the way to
South-Africa and Asia. This resulted in a huge database that you can
now consult at:</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
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<a style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" href="http://vocopvarenden.nationaalarchief.nl/Search.aspx" target="_blank">http://vocopvarenden.nationaalarchief.nl/Search.aspx</a><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
Not all data have been processed yet, but in the 18th century,
seventeen people with surname "Hahn" have boarded their ships. Sorry if
this information has already been published on the list.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
Kind greetings,</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" color="#888888">
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Luc Hellinckx, Halle, Belgium</font><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">----------</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From: R. F. Hahn <<a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com" target="_blank">sassisch@yahoo.com</a>></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject: Names<br><br>Thanks, Luc. That's a terrific resource.<br><br>
And you didn't count the 500 persons named Haan and the 242 persons called Hagen, all being versions of the same name.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From what I understand from the introduction, these are not passengers but VOC <i>employees</i>:<br></span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" id="ctl00_cphMain_litContent"><ol>
<li style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);" class="ContentLI">The essential crewmen necessary to sail the ship.
Following arrival in Asia some of them are enlisted for inter-Asian
trade routes. </li><li style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);" class="ContentLI">Craftsmen for the settlements in Asia.
</li><li style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);" class="ContentLI">Soldiers.
</li><li class="ContentLI"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">The rest, for example junior merchants, preachers, surgeons etc.</span> </li></ol></span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Yes, in a way they are passengers since they are not mariners, but the VOC was not only a shipping line but essentially a colonial enterprise with varying interests and powers, and these employees were sent overseas to run the enormous operation. Since these are persons in the employ of this concern, and considering the times, this explains why relatively few women are listed.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
The time period is within the 18th century: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" id="ctl00_cphMain_litContent">1700-1794. <br>
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The list</span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> contains more than </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" id="ctl00_cphMain_litContent">655.000 employees of </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" id="ctl00_cphMain_litContent">Dutch East India Company (VOC) ships</span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" id="ctl00_cphMain_litContent">.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">I see that a lot of people from Northern Germany took those voyages.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Sample numbers of North German places from which people came:</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<ul style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><li>Altona (now part of Hamburg): 500+</li><li>Berlin: 263<br>~ Berlijn: 500+</li><li>Bielefeld: 1<br>~ Bieleveld: 13<br>~ Bijleveld: 474</li><li>Bremen: 500+</li><li>
Brunswick (Braunschweig):<br>
~ Brunswijk: 271</li><li>Büsum:<br>~ Busum: 5</li><li>Celle: 119</li><li>Cloppenburg: 38<br>~ Cloppenburgh: 14</li><li>Flensburg: 500+<br>~ Flensburgh: 307</li><li>Göttingen:<br>~ Gottingen: 126</li><li>Greifswald:<br>~ Grijpswolt: 8</li>
<li>Hamburg: 500+<br>~ Hamborg: 55<br>~ Hamborgh: 41<br>~ Hamburgh: 500+</li><li>Hanover: 500+<br>~ Hannover: 238</li><li>Harburg (now part of Hamburg): 11<br>~ Harborg: 1<br>~ Harborgh: 1<br>~ Harburgh: 2</li><li>Husum: 18</li>
<li>Kiel: 277<br>~ Kijl: 1</li><li>Lauenburg: 17<br>~ Lauenburgh: 8</li><li>Leer: 79</li><li>Lübeck:<br>~ Lubek: 358<br>~ Lubeck: 227</li><li>Lüneburg:<br>~ Luneburg: 27<br>~ Luneburgh: 2</li><li>Lütjenburg:<br>~ Lutjenburg: 2</li>
<li>Magdeburg: 123<br>~ Magdeburgh: 20</li><li>Osnabrück: 8<br>~ Ossenbrugge: 3</li><li>Paderborn: 226</li><li>Rostock: 58<br>~ Rostok: 500+</li><li>Rugia (Rügen):<br>~ Rugen: 8</li><li>Schwerin:<br>~ Swerin: 60</li><li>
Soltau: 2</li>
<li>Stade: 237</li><li>Stralsund: 6<br>~ Straalsund: 31<br>~ Straalzung: 3</li><li>Winsen: 30<br>~ Winzen: 2</li><li>Wismar: 236<br>~ Wismer: 121</li><li>Verden: 10<br></li></ul><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">("500+" can mean </span><b style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">any</b><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> number above 500 and asks for search refinement.)</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">There were persons from Britain and Ireland as well; e.g.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<ul style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><li>Bristol: 25</li><li>Dublin: 63<br></li><li>Edinburgh: 1<br>~ Edinburg: 2</li><li>Hull: 4<br></li><li>London:<br>~ Londen: 174<br></li></ul><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">As you can see, there was no spelling standard and place names tended to be written hollandized. The same went for personal names.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">For instance, Jan Elis of Edinburgh must have been John Ellis, similarly Frans Michielsz (Glasgow) = *Francis Michaels, Willem Kerbij (Bristol) = *William Kerby, Johan Matthijs (Bristol) = *John Matthews, Jan Keulij (Dublin) = *John Kelly, Franscois Maikenna = *Francis McKenna, Denijs Obrijn (Dublin) = Dennis O'Brian; similarly Low Saxon names of Germany; e.g. Pieter Woutersz (Hamburg) = Peter *Wolters, Gerrit Meijer (Kiel) = *Gerd (Gerhard) Meier, David Gotlip (Lübeck) = *David Gottlieb (German, perhaps Jewish), Pieter Wagenaar (Lübeck) = *Peter Wagner, Jan Mulder (Brunswick) = *Jan (Johannes) Möller.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">As for my mother's maiden name, there were 21 persons called
Brookman (~ Brookmann) and one called Braukman. They came from both the
Netherlands and Northern Germany.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
32 persons, mostly from Northern Germany, are called Hins (~ Hinz).</span><br><br>Thanks and regards,<br>Reinhard/Ron<br>Seattle, USA<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
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