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===========================================<br></div><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="gI"><span class="gD" style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25);">Jacqueline Bungenberg de Jong</span> <span class="go"><<a href="mailto:Dutchmatters@comcast.net">Dutchmatters@comcast.net</a>></span></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="gI">LL-L "Etymology" 2009.11.15 (03) [DE-EN]<br><br></span><p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Hello Jonny, Sorry this in English, my German is just enough to
ask for the road to the train station,</span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I think I might be able to help you. In Dutch we have next to
the words etgras,etgroede and etland which clearly fall under the meaning that
you have found, also the word “etmaal” meaning twice eb and twice flood, a
period of 24 hours. So wouldn’t the meaning be the grass that sticks up its
head, grows if you will, within twenty four hours after mowing?</span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Hope this helps, </span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Jacqueline BdJ</span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Seattle WA</span></p><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">----------</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="gI"><span class="gD" style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25);">Jonny</span> <span class="go"><<a href="mailto:jonny.meibohm@arcor.de">jonny.meibohm@arcor.de</a>></span></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
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Subject: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="gI">LL-L "Etymology" 2009.11.15 (05) [EN]</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
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<div><span>Beste
Luc,</span></div>
<div><span></span> </div>
<div><span>very short because
it's very late:</span></div><div class="im">
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<div><span><font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">What's the Saxon verb for a cow chewing her cud?</font><br></span></div>
</div><div><span>We say "edderkäuen"
(iterum!!??;-)), I've heard "adderkäuen", too; DE
"widerkäuen".</span></div>
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<div align="left">Allerbest<span>, good night!</span></div>
<div align="left"> </div><font style="font-family: courier new,monospace;" color="#888888">
<div align="left">Jonny Meibohm</div>
<div align="left">Lower Saxony,
Germany</div></font></div>
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<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="gI"><span class="gD" style="color: rgb(91, 16, 148);">Henry Pijffers</span> <span class="go"><<a href="mailto:henry.pijffers@gmail.com">henry.pijffers@gmail.com</a>></span></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
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Subject: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="gI">LL-L "Etymology" 2009.11.15 (03) [DE-EN]<br><br></span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">> From: Jonny <</span><a style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" href="mailto:jonny.meibohm@arcor.de">jonny.meibohm@arcor.de</a><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
> during my "hunting" for nearly forgotten LS-words, which I'd like to</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
> conserve, I came upon LS "Etgrao" (spoken like 'at-grow') in the meaning of</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
> 'grass for a second mowing'. This word still is part of my own vocabulary,</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
> and I found it in the old Dictionary for Middle Saxon of Schiller-Lübben as</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
> 'Et(h)grode'.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
It's also known in Dutch as "etgroen":</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<a style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" href="http://www.dbnl.org/tekst/cali003nieu01_01/cali003nieu01_01_0008.htm" target="_blank">http://www.dbnl.org/tekst/cali003nieu01_01/cali003nieu01_01_0008.htm</a><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
or "etgroei":</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<a style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" href="http://books.google.nl/books?id=8J6t78IJSc4C&pg=PA66&lpg=PA66&dq=etgroei&source=bl&ots=Uei5PAyTCE&sig=wPmezbglYBQARlLmG_GAboYyW9o&hl=nl&ei=3aEAS6XSI9rKjAfQ2aWYCw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=9&ved=0CC4Q6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=etgroei&f=false" target="_blank">http://books.google.nl/books?id=8J6t78IJSc4C&pg=PA66&lpg=PA66&dq=etgroei&source=bl&ots=Uei5PAyTCE&sig=wPmezbglYBQARlLmG_GAboYyW9o&hl=nl&ei=3aEAS6XSI9rKjAfQ2aWYCw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=9&ved=0CC4Q6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=etgroei&f=false</a><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
cheers,</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" color="#888888">Henry</font><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">----------</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From: R. F. Hahn <</span><a style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com" target="_blank">sassisch@yahoo.com</a><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
Subject: Etymology</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Oh, my goodness! It's Henry!</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Jonny, I think you're on the right track.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Low Saxon:</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Ettgröön</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> 'second mowing of gras' (~ </span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Namaad </i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">~ </span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Naagras</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">)</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Ettmaal</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> 'period of 24 hours', 'period between low and high tide'</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">edderkauen ~ adderkauen</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> 'to chew the cud'</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">addern</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> 'to constantly moan, groan and whine'</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Old Saxon:</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">ed</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> 'again'</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Old Low Frankish:</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">*ed-</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> 'again'</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Old Frisian:</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">*et-</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> 'again'</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">etmēl(de)</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> 'period of 24 hours'</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Old English:</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">*ed-</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> 'again'</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">edreccan</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> 'to chew the cud'</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">edníewe</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> 'anew'</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">edbyrdan</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> 'to revive'</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">edmǽle</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> '(periodically recurring) festivity'</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">edléan </i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">'reparation'</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">edryne</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> 'return'</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">edweala </i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">'whirlpool'</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">edwinde</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> 'whirl'</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Old German:</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">it</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> ~ </span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">ita</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> 'again'</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">itaniuwes</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> 'anew'</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">itarukken</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> 'to chew the cud'</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">itberan </i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">~ </span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">itaberan</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> 'to give birth again', 'to renew'</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">iternōn</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> 'to regrow'</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">itgruōd</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> 'perennial plant'</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">itl</i><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">ōn</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> 'reparation'</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">itmāl</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> '(periodically recurring) festivity'</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">itslaht</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> 'relapse'</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">itwinde</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> 'whirl'</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Germanic:</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">*</span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">ed</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">- 'again'</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Indo-European:</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">*</span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">eti-</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> 'again'</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Regards,</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Reinhard/Ron</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Seattle, USA</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
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