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===========================================<br></div><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="gI"><span class="gD" style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25);">Jacqueline Bungenberg de Jong</span> <span class="go"><<a href="mailto:Dutchmatters@comcast.net">Dutchmatters@comcast.net</a>></span></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="gI">LL-L "Etymology" 2009.11.29 (02) [EN]<br></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br>
Helllo Jonny, Heather and Ron </span>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Re the provenance of the word “Kirche”, “Kerk” ,”Church” etc. What
an interesting story. Let me throw some more oil on the fire. I seem to
remember from history lessons from long ago that at least some of the church
dignitaries accompanying the Romans when they made their voyage of discovery to
the North West were pontiffs of the Armenian Christian Church. I do not know
whether they would use the word “kiriko” or a derivative thereof. </span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Jacqueline</span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Seattle </span></p><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">----------</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From: R. F. Hahn <</span><a style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com" target="_blank">sassisch@yahoo.com</a><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
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Subject: Etymology<br><br>Hi, neighbor Jacqueline!<br><br>I agree that it is an interesting story.<br><br>You threw in:<br><br></span><div style="margin-left: 40px; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Let me throw some more oil on the fire. I seem to
remember from history lessons from long ago that at least some of the church
dignitaries accompanying the Romans when they made their voyage of discovery to
the North West were pontiffs of the Armenian Christian Church. I do not know
whether they would use the word “kiriko” or a derivative thereof. </span><br></div><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Nice point, considering that there were closed ties between the Greek-speaking world and Armenian (as well as Georgian) Christians.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Today's Armenian word for 'church' is եկեղեցի (ekegheci) and the Georgian word is ეკლესია (ek'lesia). I'm assuming that both of them were derived from Greek ἐκκλησία (</span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">ekklēsia</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">). Not surprisingly, Coptic (the last descendant of Egyptian heavily influenced by Greek) has εκ΄κλυcια (</span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">eklyseya</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">).<br>
<br>Another interesting tidbit is that the Modern Syrian Aramaic word for 'synagogue' is <i>knuši’a</i>, clearly a cognate of Hebrew כְּנֵסִיָּה (k’nēsiyyāh) 'church'. (The two languages are closely related.)<br>
<br>Regards,<br>Reinhard/Ron<br>Seattle, USA<br></span>
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