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===============================================<br></div><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="gI"><span class="gD" style="color: rgb(0, 104, 28);">Hellinckx Luc</span> <span class="go"><<a href="mailto:luc.hellinckx@gmail.com">luc.hellinckx@gmail.com</a>></span></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="gI">LL-L "Technica"<br><br></span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Beste Henno,</span><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br><div><div>You wrote:</div><div><br></div><blockquote type="cite">
From: <span style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25);">Henno Brandsma</span> <span><<a href="mailto:hennobrandsma@hetnet.nl" target="_blank">hennobrandsma@hetnet.nl</a>></span><br>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2010.02.02 (04) [EN]<br><br><div style="margin-left: 40px; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
From: "Joachim Kreimer-de Fries" <<a href="mailto:soz-red@jpberlin.de" target="_blank">soz-red@jpberlin.de</a>><br>Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2010.02.03 (01) [EN]<br>horse matters | hors materge | ros/rossen onderwerp<br>
<br>Moin LaiglÃ∞¤nners,<br><br>I'd like to share with you my newest
wonderment about the appellation of latin "cavallus" in LS. Before I'd
sworn, that DE Ross (for EN horse LS piÃ∞¤rd NL paard) is only DE, i.e.
High German, whilst the original Saxon appellation were
"piÃ∞¤rd/peerd/paard".Ã≠ </div>
<div style="margin-left: 40px; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><br><br>=> But this is not the case.<br>
<br>The most Saxon, Germanic based appellation for cavallus had been in reality:<br>
<br>*hrussa-, *hrussam = *hursa-, *hursam, Germ. (already the metathesis of the 'r')<br>
<br>hros, Old Saxon, O.Fris. hors, O.E. hors<br>hros-s, Old Norsk (with many other appellations)<br>
<br></div><div style="margin-left: 40px; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">hros,
O. H. G. Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠Â
Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ vs. pfÃ≥â≥¢rfrit, pfarifrit<br><br>ors (sometimes: ros), M. Low G. Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ vs. pert, perde<br>
ors, Middel Dutch Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠Â
Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ vs. Ã≠ " Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ (I guess)<br>ros,
M. H. G Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠Â
Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ vs. pfert/pfÃ≥â≥¢r(i)t<br><br>ors/ros, LS (at least Westphalian) Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ vs. (mostly) piÃ∞¤rd/peerd<br>
ros, NL Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠Â
Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ vs. paard<br>horse, EN Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ Ã≠ vs. - -<br><br>In
contrast to the indegous germanic hors/hros appellations - spread all
over the germanic based languages, the piÃ∞¤rd/paard ones are newer and
borrowed from Middel(age) Latin "para-veredus", courier/messenger horse
on byline (para-), and are limited to LS, NL and DE.<br><br>Let beside here the many other appellation as guul, hingst, klepper, mÃ∞¤re, page etc.<br></div>
<div style="margin-left: 40px; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
<br>My conclusions off that are:<br><br>
</div><div style="margin-left: 40px; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">1.
'ors' or better 'hors' and 'ros' are very Saxon based words for
cavallus and at least equivalent to 'piÃ∞¤rd, peert, paart', also for
Modern LS (PlatdÃ∞Ï•Ã∞Ï•dsk) and NL.<br></div><div><br></div><div>[as an aside: my stupid rendering problems have not yet gone away..... ]</div></blockquote><div>Same
here pal. For more than one year, these encoding problems have been
going on and nobody cares. 'Cause it's only Apple that is involved...a
minority. A linguistic minority is of course much more important and
needs to be legally protected. I'm truly losing interest because I'm
fed up reading gobbledigook. </div><div><br></div><div>Ever noticed it's been very quiet lately?</div><div><br></div><div>Kind greetings,</div><div><br></div><font color="#888888"><div>Luc Hellinckx, Halle, Belgium</div>
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<font size="2"><span>From: R. F. Hahn <<a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com" target="_blank">sassisch@yahoo.com</a>></span></font></p>
<font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" size="2">Subject: Technica<br><br>Luc,<br><br>I can understand your frustration. It may <i>seem </i>to you as though "</font><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">nobody cares," but I can assure you that it does not apply to me.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">I have been looking and asking around for solutions, including consulting people at LINGUIST and people that know a lot about Macs and incompatibility problems. The fact that until now I have not received a satisfactory response does not mean that I don't care.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Question: Have you or anyone else using Macs ever consulted the company that sells your computers? If so, what did they say?</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Regards,</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Reinhard/Ron</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Seattle, USA</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
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