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From: R. F. Hahn <<a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com">sassisch@yahoo.com</a>><br>
Subject: Technica<br>
<br>
Below is the message Joachim had meant me to send in HTML format.<br>
<br>
I hope it's the right one.<br>
<br>
Reinhard/Ron<br>
Seattle, USA<br>
</span><br>
<span style="font-size: 11pt;">From: "Joachim
Kreimer-de Fries" <<a href="mailto:soz-red@jpberlin.de">soz-red@jpberlin.de</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:LOWLANDS-L@listserv.linguistlist.org">LOWLANDS-L@listserv.linguistlist.org</a><br>
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:49:49 +0100<br>
Subject: Re: LL-L "Technica" 2010.02.07 (05) [EN]</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="" lang="DE"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Am 07.02.2010,
23:07 Uhr, schrieb Reinhard/Ron:</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Thanks, Luc.<br>
<br>
You wrote:</span><span style="font-family: Arial;"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 30pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">That's
why I also advocate Joachim's suggestion.</span><span style="font-family: Arial;"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Do you mean his suggestion to go
back to plain text?</span><span style="font-family: Arial;"></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 13.5pt;">Thank you, Luc, for backing my suggestion!</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 13.5pt;">Reinhard further:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"><br>
If so, this would, of course, take us back years and would deprive us of many
useful text-formatting tools.</span><span style="font-family: Arial;"></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 13.5pt;">Dear Reinhard & all,</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 13.5pt;">I did not propose to throw away our Office
applications and to use only plain text editors to tell the world our great
thoughts and consolidated findings!</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 13.5pt;">It's only that I advocate the default use of
plain text e-mails, especially in Newsgroups and Mailing lists. (Exceptions can
be allowed)</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 13.5pt;">As it is, the LL-Listmails are the ugliest
and worse readable of all mailing lists and newsgroups I follow.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 13.5pt;">Can you tell me, Reinhard, which are the </span><span style="font-size: 11pt;">"many useful text-formatting tools" </span><span style="font-size: 13.5pt;">which we were deprived of when our e-mails would be
presented by the mailing list as they are, be it plain text (which I would
prefer) or (html-) formatted?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 13.5pt;">After a rough overview on the last 30 LL-L
mails I found only two "features" where html formatting were needed:</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 13.5pt;">1.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> From: Hannelore Hinz <<a href="mailto:HanneHinz@t-online.de" target="_blank">HanneHinz@t-online.de</a>><br>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2010.02.04 (03) [EN]:</span> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Pierd,</span></strong><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> n. Spr. Perd, Pl. Pierd', Schreibung auch Pir,
als Aussprache. Also Pferd: equus.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Hingst, </span></strong><span style="font-size: 10pt;">m. Hengst, männliches unkastriertes Pferd.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Roß, </span></strong><span style="font-size: 10pt;">n. Roß, Pferd.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="DE">Zossen,</span></strong><span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="DE"> m. altes Pferd, abschätzig.</span><span style="" lang="DE"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 13.5pt;"><br>
=> That is, the <strong>bold fonts</strong> at the beginning of the lines.
And similar other cases.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 13.5pt;">2. </span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">From: R. F. Hahn <<a href="http://uk.mc264.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sassisch@yahoo.com" target="_blank">sassisch@yahoo.com</a>></span><span style="font-family: Arial;"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Subject: </span><span style="font-family: Arial;">Etymology<br>
<br>
Good question, Paul. Modern Low Saxon has both <i>slang</i> and <i>snaak</i>
for "snake", but in Old Saxon and Old Low Frankish I can only locate <i>slanga</i>.
<br>
<br>
I wonder if Low Saxon <i>snaaksch</i> and Dutch <i>snaaks</i> 'droll', 'weird',
were derived from <i>snake</i> > <i>snaak</i> 'snake' (thus
*"snakish").</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 13.5pt;">=> That is, the use of </span><em><span style="font-size: 24pt;">italic fonts</span></em><span style="font-size: 13.5pt;">
as with the words </span><i><span style="font-family: Arial;">»snaak</span></i><span style="font-family: Arial;"> for "snake"«, »Low Saxon <i>snaaksch</i>
and Dutch <i>snaaks</i> 'droll'«. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 13.5pt;">And similar other cases, also from Hanne
Hinz.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 13.5pt;">That I put <em>italic fonts </em>so big, is a
demonstration what uncivilized formatting is possible with html-mails. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 13.5pt;">In my opinion, this is not really necessary.
In plain text I would have typed:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="NL">Pierd, n. Spr. Perd, Pl. </span><span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="DE">Pierd', Schreibung auch Pir, als Aussprache. Also
Pferd: equus.</span><span style="" lang="DE"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="DE">Hingst,<strong> </strong>m. Hengst, männliches unkastriertes Pferd.</span><span style="" lang="DE"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="DE">Roß, n. Roß, Pferd.</span><span style="" lang="DE"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="DE">Zossen, m. altes Pferd, abschätzig.</span><span style="" lang="DE"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="" lang="DE"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 13.5pt;">and:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Arial;">'snaak' for
"snake"«, »Low Saxon </span><span style="font-size: 13.5pt;">'snaaksch</span><span style="font-family: Arial;">' and Dutch </span><span style="font-size: 13.5pt;">'snaaks</span><span style="font-family: Arial;">' = 'droll'« or similar.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 13.5pt;">BTW, last point:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 13.5pt;">Better yet to avoid the
lavish, though counterproductive work to present our contributions in digest
mode - with the result, that it is almost impossible to read through a thread
of answers and follow-ups to a certain matter. - Admitted, I don't know the
restrictions of <a href="http://linguistic.org/" target="_blank">linguistic.org</a>,
perhaps we are all the user <a href="mailto:lowlands.list@gmail.com" target="_blank">lowlands.list@gmail.com</a></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 13.5pt;">the only sender address which
appears in LL-L.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Met echt-westfœlsken »Goutgaun!«</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><br>
joachim</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">PS: What about my proposal, to change - within the
administrative settings of the list - the "Reply-To: <a href="mailto:lowlands.list@gmail.com" target="_blank">lowlands.list@gmail.com</a>"
mail header to the real posting address "<a href="mailto:LOWLANDS-L@listserv.linguistlist.org" target="_blank">LOWLANDS-L@listserv.linguistlist.org</a>",
so that klicking "reply" would put this correct address into the To:-
field already …<br>
<span style="font-size: 10pt;">--<br>
Kreimer-de Fries<br>
Osnabrügge => Berlin-Pankow<br>
<br>
Mac BacicTeX 2009 - TeXShop 2.29 / TeXworks 0.2.3<br>
LyX 1.6.5 - MacBook Pro intel OSX 10.4.11 Tiger</span></p>
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