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<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject: </span><span class="gI"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">LL-L "Language politics"</span><br><br></span><div style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">
<span>Beste Lowlanners,
Marcus,</span></div>
<div style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"><span></span> </div>
<div style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"><span>to my previous mail
of today LL-L "Language politics" 2010.02.23 (06) [DE-NDS] I would like to add
some more thoughts I meanwhile made. (I'll continue in English because this
might be interesting for other people, too.)</span></div>
<div style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"><span></span> </div>
<div style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"><span>Marcus and I lately
had a discussion about 'endonym' and 'exonym', the first a
<strong><em>development</em></strong> of a word within a certain language or
dialect, the latter a <strong><em>translation</em></strong> from another
language.</span></div>
<div style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"><span></span> </div>
<div style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"><span>I asked for a
confusing example, dealing with an island on the Elbe river which in todays NDS
is 'Kruutsand', in DE is 'Krautsand' (E: 'weed sand', also 'Krautsand'
;-)). My argument was that it in the early time of the Hanse had been MLG 'De
grote/groute Sand' (E 'The great sand'), then incorrectly became translated into
DE as 'Krautsand', which at least became the exonym NDS
'Kruutsand'.</span></div>
<div style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"><span></span> </div>
<div style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"><span>Marcus, thanks for
your very useful doubts in this matter; they give me another view upon
it.</span></div>
<div style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"><span>Meanwhile I think
it to be a very bad example to find out more about the facts around
endo-/exonym. Who had given the name to an (probably unsettled) island between
the North Sea and the important port of Hamburg? It probably have been
seafarers, who draw the first maps and told each other about their
navigational experiences. And these captains came from all parts of Europe,
spoke different languages and probably were not perfect in writing at all, in
special not in writing Middle Low German, which was the lingua franca amongst
them.</span></div>
<div style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"><span>So of course these
different varieties we deal with in old documents as 'De groote Sand', 'De
kro(u)te Sand' or 'Dat Crudsand' were confusing for the drawers of 'official'
maps in the later middleage.</span></div>
<div style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"><span></span> </div>
<div style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"><span>I'm still convinced
that the basic name was NDS 'de groote Sand', because it is and had been the
biggest sand, but it wasn't a true endonym. The variety with 'Kruut-' may have
been existing at the same time, too, so we don't stringently deal with a
typical exonym as well.</span></div>
<div style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"><span></span> </div>
<div style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"><span>Things are not
always as they seem to be on the first glance!</span></div>
<div style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"> </div>
<div style="font-family: courier new,monospace;" align="left"><span>With
a</span>llerbest<span>' regards to a very intelligent
and engaged young man from a grateful</span></div>
<div style="font-family: courier new,monospace;" align="left"> </div>
<div style="font-family: courier new,monospace;" align="left">Jonny Meibohm</div>
<div style="font-family: courier new,monospace;" align="left">Lower Saxony, Germany</div><br><br><br>
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