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Subject: <span class="gI">LL-L "Etymology" 2010.03.08 (06) [EN]<br><br></span></font><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2">Dear Lowlanners,</font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2"> </font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2">other Germanic languages like Swedish use this expression from same ethymological origin. Wedding, Swedish "bröllöp"</font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2"> </font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2">Greetings from Berlin</font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2"> </font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2">Heinrich Becker </font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="im"><font size="2"> </font><font size="2"><br></font><div style="margin-left: 40px; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><font size="2">From: Marcus Buck <span><<a href="mailto:list@marcusbuck.org" target="_blank">list@marcusbuck.org</a>></span><br>
</font><font size="2">Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2010.03.08 (02) [EN]<br><br></font><font size="2">"Brautlauf etc."<br></font></div>
</div><font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" size="2"><br>----------<br><br>From: R. F. Hahn <<a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com" target="_blank">sassisch@yahoo.com</a>><br>Subject: Etymology<br></font>
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Lowlanders,<br>
<br>
As most of you probably know, “to nosh” is a colloquial English word for “to
eat,” often especially in the sense of “to snack,” and the noun “nosh” usually
means something like “snack.”<br>
<br>
I am fairly confident in saying that these go back to the Yiddish verb <i>nash-</i> (</span><span dir="RTL" lang="HE">נאַשן</span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span><span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span>
nashn) ‘to snack’ and/or noun <i>nash</i> (</span><span dir="RTL" lang="HE">נאַש</span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span><span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span>) ‘snack’. Theoretically, they
could have come from the German verb <i>nasch-</i> (<i>naschen</i>) ‘to snack’
(usually more in the sense of ‘to have a treat’, particularly a sweet treat). I
don’t think German has a noun form of it.<br>
<br>
Old German has the verb <i>naskōn</i> ‘to nibble’, while Danish has <i>naske</i>
and Swedish has <i>naska</i> with similar meanings. It is my belief that the
original meaning was something like *’to chew on something’. The reason for
this is that I suspect it is also related to English “to gnash” (as in “to
gnash one’s teeth”), thus with an old prefix *g-. This again is related to Low
Saxon <i>gnasch-</i> (<i>gnaschen</i> ~ <i>gnarschen</i>) and (> Middle
Saxon?) Danish <i>gnaske</i> ‘to gnash’, ‘to crunch’, related to German <i>knirschen</i>.<br>
<br>
All of these appear to be of onomatopoetic origin and originally referred to sounds making with one's teeth.<br>
<br>
I can not find the Old English ancestor of “gnash.” According to the <i>Oxford</i>
<i>English Dictionary</i>, it appeared in the 15th century and may be related to
archaic “to gnast” from Old Norse <i>gnísta</i>, an ablaut form of *<i>gnaist</i>
‘to gnash’. I, however, am wondering if “gnash” came from Middle Saxon, in part
because the 15th century saw more or less intensive contacts between Britain and
the Hanseatic Trading League, and the shift *<i>gnast</i> > <i>gnash</i> would
seem somewhat unusual.<br>
<br>
Any ideas about this?<br>
<br>
By the way, some Low Saxon dialects do have <i>naschen</i> in the sense of ‘to snack
on treats’, but I suspect this is a German loan. Many other dialects use <i>snopen</i>,
which is related to Dutch <i>snoepen</i>. Other Low Saxon verbs with this meaning
are <i>snoken</i>, <i>snoven</i>, <i>snabbeln</i>, <i>snœkern</i>, <i>snückern</i>,
<i>sleckern</i> and <i>slickern</i>. Note the recurring <i>s-</i>, specifically
<i>sn-</i>, also in English “snack” and Low Saxon <i>snacken</i> ‘to talk’, originally
‘to make sounds with one’s teeth’! In the case of </span></font><font size="2"><span><i>sleckern</i> and <i>slickern</i>,<i> </i></span></font><font size="2"><span>his <i>s-</i> seems to precede a frequentive (-r-) form of the group "lick."<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Reinhard/Ron<br>
Seattle, USA</span><span></span></font></p>
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