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===============================================<br></font></div><font size="2"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="gI"><span class="gD" style="color: rgb(0, 104, 28);">Hellinckx Luc</span> <span class="go"><<a href="mailto:luc.hellinckx@gmail.com">luc.hellinckx@gmail.com</a>></span></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="gI">LL-L "History"<br><br></span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Beste Jonny,</span></font><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<font size="2"><br></font><div><div><font size="2">On 13/03/10, at 22:26,
Jonny wrote:</font></div><div><font size="2"><span> </span></font></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div>
<div style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"><font size="2"><span>Hanne:
</span></font></div>
<div><font color="#008080" size="2"><strong>Wer war Frangipani? Ein
Mönch?</strong></font></div>
<div><font size="2"><span></span> </font></div>
<div style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"><font size="2"><span>Nee,
weit gefehlt:
ein österreichisch-kroatisch-ungarischer Duodez-Fürst von der
schlechteren
Sorte, verdeutscht auch "Frankopan" ('fränkischer Herr'??).</span></font></div></div></div></blockquote><div><font size="2"><br></font></div><div><font size="2">No
apparent link with the Franks as far as I can see. The "Frangipani"
family was named after the act of breaking the bread (proof of being a
devout Christian?), "frangere il pane" in Italian.</font></div><div><font size="2"><br></font></div><div><font size="2">Off
the record, "frangipane" cakes are my favorite type of cookies. Here in
Belgium, they are very popular, and consist of almonds with a little
icing on top. Back in the days, one guy of the Frangipani family must
have invented a sort of perfume, which was often sprayed on gloves. Soon
the fragrance started carrying his name. Later on, the same scent was
used in pastry, hence "a frangipane tartlet".</font></div><div><font size="2"><br></font></div><div><font size="2">Kind
greetings,</font></div><div><font size="2"><br></font></div><font color="#888888" size="2"><div>Luc
Hellinckx, Halle, Belgium</div></font></div></div><font size="2"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">----------</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"></font><font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" size="2">From: R.
F. Hahn <<a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com" target="_blank">sassisch@yahoo.com</a>><br>
Subject: History<br><br>Jonny and everyone,<br><br>Indeed, Frangipani (with the alternative Frangipane) has nothing to do with Franks and nothing with Slavic <i>pan</i> 'lord' either. It is the name of a very influential Roman family in the Middle Ages. The meaning of the name is "Bread Breakers" (Italian <i>frangere il pane</i> 'to break (the) bread')</font><font size="2"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">. One branch of the family evolved into a Croatian family line by name of Frankopan. In later, Slavic-speaking times the folk etymology of "Frankish lord" may have arisen.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Incidentally, in English and German, Frangipani is the common name of a flower whose botanical names are </span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Plumeria</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> and </span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Himatanthus</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">. It is of exquisite beauty. I had quite a few plants of it growing in my front garden in Australia. It is one of the </span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">de facto</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> state flowers of Hawaii, where its native name </span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Melia</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> is a popular women's name, perhaps also because of its similarity with Maria.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Regards,</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Reinhard/Ron</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Seattle, USA</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">----------</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"></font><font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" size="2">From: </font><font size="2"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="gI"><span class="gD" style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25);">Hannelore Hinz</span> <span class="go"><<a href="mailto:hannehinz@t-online.de">hannehinz@t-online.de</a>></span></span></font><font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" size="2"><br>
Subject: </font><font size="2"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="gI">LL-L "History" 2010.03.12 (03) [DE-NDS]</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"></font><font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" size="2"><br>
</font><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2">Hallo Marcus,</font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2"> </font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2">besten Dank ok. Man in de von di näumte
Web. steiht
up de Sied 183:</font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2">Der Verfertiger des Stammbaumes nahm
offenbar eine
II. Apollonia an, die er im Stammbaum nicht unterzubringen wusste.*</font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2">DRITTE AUFLAGE Frankfurt am Main
VERLAG VON
HEINRICH KELLER 1901</font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2"> </font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2">De Stammbom steiht in mien Bauk nich
in.
</font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2">FÜNFTE BIS NEUNTE AUFLAGE. </font><font size="2">COPYRIGHT 1926 BY FRANKFURTER VERLAGS-ANSTALT
A.-G. / BERLIN</font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2">* Dat löt mi nahdenken. Nu sinnier ick,
worüm hier
de Stammbom weglaten is... </font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2">Woans künn man dit utleggen.</font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2">Mi hebben's ümmer vertellt, FRANGIPANI
is 'n
Mönch west...</font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2">un de Ring nich von Gold (Iesen ...?)</font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2"> </font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2"><a href="http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appollonia" target="_blank">http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appollonia</a></font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2"> </font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2">(Sagwort: "Denn laten wi dat so", säd
Dackdecker
Möller.)</font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2"> </font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2">Noch 'n schönen Sünndag för all'
Lowlanners.</font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2"> </font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2">Hanne<br><br>----------<br><br></font><font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" size="2">From: </font><font size="2"><span class="gI"><span class="gD" style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25);">Marcus Buck</span> <span class="go"><<a href="mailto:list@marcusbuck.org">list@marcusbuck.org</a>></span></span></font><font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" size="2"><br>
Subject: </font><font size="2"><span class="gI">LL-L "History" 2010.03.13 (02) [EN]</span><br></font><font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" size="2"><br></font></div><font size="2"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From: Jonny <</span><a style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" href="mailto:jonny.meibohm@arcor.de" target="_blank">jonny.meibohm@arcor.de</a><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<mailto:</span><a style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" href="mailto:jonny.meibohm@arcor.de" target="_blank">jonny.meibohm@arcor.de</a></font><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" id=":4e" class="ii gt">
<font size="2">>></font><div class="im"><font size="2"><br></font>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><font size="2">
Subject: LL-L "History" 2010.03.12 (03) [DE]<br><br>
Hanne und Marcus,</font>
<font size="2"><br>
zunächst Dir, Marcus, Dank für Deinen Link <<a href="http://wiki.marcusbuck.org/Scans/Der_Ring_des_Frangipani.pdf" target="_blank">http://wiki.marcusbuck.org/Scans/Der_Ring_des_Frangipani.pdf</a>><br>
- habe die ganze Story heute morgen direkt nach dem Frühstück gelesen.
Interessanter, kurzweiliger Ausflug in die Geschichte der östl.
Alpenländer....<br></font>
</blockquote>
<font size="2"><br></font></div><font size="2">
Kleine Anmerkung noch: der Autor des Buches ist 1920 gestorben und das
Buch ist demnach gemeinfrei (nur falls sich einer Sorgen um die
Urheberrechte macht. Die sind ausgelaufen). Das Buch ist auch frei auf
Google Books verfügbar, aber nur für Nutzer aus den USA. Lässt sich aber
umgehen, wenn man 'nen Proxy benutzt (dasselbe womit man auch
Kinderporno-Sperren umgeht).<br></font><font color="#888888" size="2">
<br>
Marcus Buck</font></div><font size="2"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"></font><div style="text-align: center; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2">===================================================<br style="color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">
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