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From: <span class="gd"><span style="color: rgb(200, 137, 0);">Sandy Fleming</span></span><span class="gi"> </span><span class="go"><<a href="mailto:sandy@fleimin.demon.co.uk">sandy@fleimin.demon.co.uk</a>></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Subject: <span class="gi">LL-L
"Etymology" 2010.04.16 (01) [EN]</span></p>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">> From: Paul Finlow-Bates
<<a href="mailto:wolf_thunder51@yahoo.co.uk">wolf_thunder51@yahoo.co.uk</a>><br>
> Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2010.04.15 (02) [DE-EN]</p>
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> That sounds very possible to me. Sandy or somebody might be able to<br>
> tell us if the come/keam shift is possible in Scots?</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">I would say not.
Come/comer/comin/cam are the verb forms.<br>
<br>
If one must force it into Scots, all I can think of is "kimmer" which<br>
originally meant "godmother" but later came to mean
"gossip".<br>
<br>
It went on to be used as an off-hand way of referring to a woman.<br>
<br>
I don't see this shifting to "Keamer", however.<br>
<br>
I don't think the time-frame involved in the original enquiry would<br>
allow the possibility of it being anything you would want to give as a<br>
name your children, either.<br>
<br>
So I suggest, again, that it's a place-name, surname or something from<br>
outside.<br>
<span style="color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"><br>
Sandy Fleming<br>
<a href="http://scotstext.org/" target="_blank">http://scotstext.org/</a></span></p>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">From: <span class="gd"><span style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25);">Heiko Evermann</span></span><span class="gi"> </span><span class="go"><<a href="mailto:heiko.evermann@gmx.de">heiko.evermann@gmx.de</a>></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Arial;">Subject: <img src="file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/Ron/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtml1/01/clip_image001.gif" width="1" border="0" height="1"><span class="gi">Re: LL-L "Etymology"
2010.04.16 (02) [EN]</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Arial;">>> Well... Spelling
aside, to my ears "keam" is the typical American<br>
>> pronunciation of "to come".</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Arial;">> “Typical American
pronunciation,” Heiko?! What sort of American English is<br>
> that, and what is the pronunciation of “keam”?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Arial;">Well, the official British
pronunciation is /k</span><span style="font-family: "MS Mincho";">ʌ</span><span style="font-family: Arial;">m/.
But when I hear<br>
Americans, especially from the Southern states, I often hear something<br>
slightly different. The vowel is not a clear /</span><span style="font-family: "MS Mincho";">ʌ</span><span style="font-family: Arial;">/. There is something<br>
else between the k and the /</span><span style="font-family: "MS Mincho";">ʌ</span><span style="font-family: Arial;">/. At least to my ears. It sounds like<br>
/kə</span><span style="font-family: "MS Mincho";">ʌ</span><span style="font-family: Arial;">m/. Never
heard that?<br>
<span style="color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"><br>
Heiko</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Arial;">From: R. F. Hahn <<a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com" target="_blank">sassisch@yahoo.com</a>><br>
Subject: Etymology<br>
<br>
Thanks, Heiko.<br>
<br>
I’m not familiar with such a pronunciation in North American English ... which doesn’t
necessarily mean that you are mistaken.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Reinhard/Ron</span></p>
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