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From: <span class="gd"><span style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25);">M.-L. Lessing</span></span><span class="gi"> </span><span class="go"><<a href="mailto:marless@gmx.de">marless@gmx.de</a>></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="gi">LL-L
"Etymology" 2010.04.18 (02) [EN]</span></span></p>
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<p style="font-family: times new roman,serif;" class="MsoNormal">In German, we have the word "Kodderschnauze" for a
person of somewhat questionable eloquence; "kodderig" is mostly used
for a sort of pert and impolite answers: "eine kodderige Antwort",
suggesting that a person that answers in this way would rather not have spoken
at all and tries to end the conversation by rendering it disagreeable. Anyway
the word is used not for persons, but for language. But all this is High
German; I have never heard it in Platt. Why not?</p>
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<p style="font-family: times new roman,serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="" lang="DE">Hartlich</span></p>
<p style="font-family: times new roman,serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="" lang="DE"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="" lang="DE"><span style="font-family: times new roman,serif;">Marlou</span></span></p>
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From: R. F. Hahn <<a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com" target="_blank"><span style="" lang="DE">sassisch@yahoo.com</span></a>><span style="" lang="DE"></span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject:
Etymology</p>
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<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">The
Low German (i.e. Low Saxon and Low Frankish) etymon <i>*kod-</i> (representatives
of which have entered German by way of Missingsch, as seen in the examples Marlou
gives above) may well be related to German (*<i>kūt-</i> >) *<i>kauz-</i> ‘to
make a barking sound’, ‘to whoop’, whence <i>Kauz</i> (a group of types of owls).<br>
<br>
Middle Rhenish German has <i>kauz-</i> and Middle Saxon has <i>kūt-</i> for ‘to
bark’, ‘to yap’, ‘to woof’. Apparently, the noun <i>Köter</i> for ‘cur’ (which German
seems to have imported from Low Saxon) is related to this group.<br>
<br>
Jonny:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 153); font-family: courier new,monospace;">2. <em>kod(d)eren/köddern</em>
(Middle Low German), meaning DE 'schwatzen, töricht reden, babbeln (auch eines
Kleinkindes)', E 'to babble (of a baby, too)', NL 'babbelen' which word probably
is related with LS 'küren, kören'. </span><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 153);" lang="DA"><span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">In Modern German 'kodderig,
koddrig' means 'schlecht; unverschämt, frech; übel', E 'bad; nasty; sick', NL
'misselijk; onbeschaamd; onwel'.</span></span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><i><span style="" lang="DA"> </span></i></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">I suggest that the first has
to do with “yapping” in the sense of ‘to babble’, also with ‘to bark’ in the sense
of barking at someone (hence being rude), and that the second has to do with making retching sounds
(which is a type of barking if you wish). The basic meaning of Low Saxon <i>kodderig</i>
is 'unwell', ’sick (to the stomach)’, ‘queasy’, ‘nauseous’.</p>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Regards,<br>
Reinhard/Ron<br>
Seattle, USA</p>
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