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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">From: Danette Howland
<<a href="mailto:dan_how@msn.com">dan_how@msn.com</a>><br>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2010.05.13 (08) [EN]</p>
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<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Hello,
All:</p>
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<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Ron
wrote:</p>
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<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 153);">I need to
add the following, just for you to think about:</span></p>
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<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 153);">Old Irish
Gaelic <i>Púca</i> (> Irish English “Pooka” or “Phooka”) ‘ghost’, etc.,
related to Welsh <i>Pwwka</i>, <i>Pooka</i>, <i>Puka</i>, <i>Phouka</i>, <i>Púka</i>,
<i>Pwca</i>, Cornish <i>Bucca</i>, English <i>Puck</i>.</span></p>
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<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Which
makes me wonder if the slavic "bog" in deity names such as <em>Czernebog, Belobog,</em> etc., isn't a
cognate. Some ancient Slavo-Gallic sharing, perhaps?</p>
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<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">The
original question about the word "big" reminded me of a word we use
here in Alaska (also well known in Reinhard's neck of the woods) is <em>skookum </em>which is from the old Chinook
trade lingo. According to some writers the word was thought to refer originally
to some sort of demon and now means "powerful," "big" or
"strong." Maybe a paralell semantic development? And now that I've
brought it up, I might as well mention that I've been thinking of contributing
a Chinook Trade Language version of "The Wren."</p>
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<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Be
well,</p>
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<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">John
Howland</p>
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<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From:
R. F. Hahn <<a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com" target="_blank">sassisch@yahoo.com</a>></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject:
Etymology<br>
<br>
Thanks, John! It’s great to hear from you again and also to see you at our Village
Commons (<a href="http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=118916521473498">http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=118916521473498</a>).<br>
<br>
That’s a very astute remark about the Slavic <i>bog</i> ‘god’ group of words, though
I wonder if the apparent “coincidence” in Celtic and Slavic points to older, Indo-European
roots. Alternatively you might consider the possibility of a Celtic substratum in
Slavic, considering the fact that some Continental Celtic regions later became
Slavic-speaking.<br>
<br>
You would definitely get a big gold star if you came up with a Chinook Jargon version
of the Wren story (<a href="http://lowlands-l.net/anniversary/english.php">http://lowlands-l.net/anniversary/english.php</a>), John. I know
people that dabble in Chinook Jargon, but none of them has anywhere near the knowledge
to do a translation.<br>
<br>
Anyway, thanks again and best regards, John, also to Danette!<br>
<br>
Reinhard/Ron</p>
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