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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;" align="center"><b><span style="font-family: Arial;" lang="PT-BR">L O W L A N D S - L - 13 July
2010 - Volume 07</span></b><span style="font-family: Arial;" lang="PT-BR"><br>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">From: <span class="gd"><span style="color: rgb(0, 104, 28);">Michael Everson</span></span><span class="gi"> </span><span class="go"><<a href="mailto:everson@evertype.com">everson@evertype.com</a>></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Subject: <span class="gi">Lowlands</span><span class="gi"> flag</span></p>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Well, here we have the coat
of arms of Lower Saxony:<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.evertype.com/pics/miscpics/Coat_of_arms_of_Lower_Saxony.svg" target="_blank">http://www.evertype.com/pics/miscpics/Coat_of_arms_of_Lower_Saxony.svg</a><br>
<br>
That's "Gules a horse forcene argent".<br>
<br>
It seems to me that the simplest thing is to reverse the colours:<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.evertype.com/pics/miscpics/Coat_of_arms_of_Low_German.svg" target="_blank">http://www.evertype.com/pics/miscpics/Coat_of_arms_of_Low_German.svg</a><br>
<br>
That's "Argent a horse forcene gules"<br>
<span style="color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"><br>
Michael Everson * <a href="http://www.evertype.com/" target="_blank">http://www.evertype.com/</a></span></p>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">From: Joachim
<<a href="mailto:Osnabryg%2BLowlands@googlemail.com">Osnabryg+Lowlands@googlemail.com</a>></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Subject: LL-L
"History" 2010.07.13 (01) [NDS]</p>
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<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 40px; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 102);">Whatever
it’s worth, I’m pretty much on the same page with you in this matter, Marcus.
The horse is </span><i style="color: rgb(0, 0, 102);">the</i><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 102);"> tribal Saxon symbol, and it is even featured in the old
Saxon-dominated area of southeastern </span>England<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 102);">
(</span>Kent<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 102);">).…</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Beste Ron & Laegländers,</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
jau, dat Saksen-hors mot het zyn. Maar het mag ouk wel zo wat als Pegasos zyn,
vanwëgen de geyst, dat scryven etc. Kyket en keer up de volgende vorbelden, dat
is maar nog nig vlag- of wapen-mautig, meer logo's. Zey zynt uut myn persoonlik
logo 'ruutkopeert.</span><br>
<br>
<span style="font-family: Arial;"><img src="file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/Ron/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtml1/01/clip_image002.jpg" width="137" border="0" height="98"></span><span style="font-family: Arial;" lang="NL"><br>
<br>
<br>
</span><span style="font-family: Arial;"><a href="http://home.arcor.de/kreimer-de_fries/saksisk-vlag/Saksisk-Pegasos-gr-R.png" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration: none;"><span style=""><img src="file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/Ron/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtml1/01/clip_image004.gif" alt="Saksisk Pegasos 1" width="521" border="0" height="387"></span></span></a></span><span style="font-family: Arial;" lang="NL"><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</span><span style="font-family: Arial;"><img src="file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/Ron/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtml1/01/clip_image006.jpg" width="396" border="0" height="285"></span><span style="font-family: Arial;" lang="NL"><br>
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</span><span style="font-family: Arial;"><img src="file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/Ron/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtml1/01/clip_image008.gif" width="509" border="0" height="381"></span><span style="font-family: Arial;" lang="NL"><br>
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<pre><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="NL">Met echt-westfœlsken »Goutgaun!«</span></pre><pre><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="DE">joachim</span></pre><pre><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="DE">--</span></pre>
<pre><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="DE">Kreimer-de Fries</span></pre><pre><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="DE">Osnabrügge => Berlin-Pankow</span></pre><pre><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="DE"> </span></pre>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Arial;">From: R. F. Hahn <<a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com" target="_blank">sassisch@yahoo.com</a>></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Arial;">Subject: History<br>
<br>
Lowlanders,<br>
<br>
I have been copying Snorre Björkson on this thread.<br>
<br>
Below is his response.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Reinhard/Ron<br>
Seattle, USA</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="" lang="NL">Dear lowlanders,
leeve Lüüd!<br>
<br>
Dusend dank för jun Meenen. </span><span style="" lang="SV">Mi
sünd bet nu dree Saken uppfallen.<br>
<br>
</span><span style="" lang="NL">Ik versöök een Tosammenfaten:<br>
<br>
1. Dat Krüüz:<br>
<br>
1.1.Dat gait üm de Fraag, of dat Krüüz een Symbool för Skandinavien is, or ook
för de Noorden allmeen.<br>
<br>
1.2. Dat gait üm de Fraag, of dat Krüüz hüüt noch een Symbool för dat
Christentum is, <br>
or egens meer een Teken för'n Noorden.<br>
<br>
2. Een Deel Lüüd will een Wappenteken upp de Flagg hebben, een annern Deel will
dat neet.<br>
As Wappenteken sünd vörslaan: Sassenpeer un/or Hansekogge.<br>
För beed gifft dat Begünnen för un ook Begrünnen gegen.<br>
Bi dat Sassenpeer was de Fraag, of dat Peer witt or swatt wesen schüll.<br>
<br>
3. De Klören.<br>
<br>
Met de Klören sünd wall de meersten inverstaan.<br>
Tominnst hebbt daar de meersten nix tegen seggt un/or könnt verstaan,<br>
<br>
dat düsse Farven een Symbool för us plattet Land sünd.<br>
Middelwiel is ook seggt, dat dat neet nippnau de olen Farven van Ollenborg
sünd.<br>
<br>
Tolesd heff ik noch den Vörslag maakt, de Flagg so to laten, un een egen
Wappenschild to maken met Sassenpeer un Hansekogg, so as de meersten frigen
Lannen ook een Flagg un een Wappenteken hebbt.<br>
<br>
So wiet bet nu. Ik dink, dat warrd Tied för een lüüte Puus.<br>
<br>
</span>Gröten, jun Snorre<span style="font-family: Arial;"></span></p>
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