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<b>L O W L A N D S - L - 16 July 2010 - Volume 01</b><br>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">From: <span class="gd"><span style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25);">Jacqueline Bungenberg de Jong</span></span><span class="gi"> </span><span class="go"><<a href="mailto:Dutchmatters@comcast.net">Dutchmatters@comcast.net</a>></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Subject: <span class="gi">LL-L
"Language history" 2010.07.15 (05) [EN]</span></p>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Luc, thank you for making
this article available. It is the answer to some questions and – Ah joy! – the
source of many new questions. Jacqueline</p>
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From: <span class="gd"><span style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25);">Paul Finlow-Bates</span></span><span class="gi"> </span><span class="go"><<a href="mailto:wolf_thunder51@yahoo.co.uk">wolf_thunder51@yahoo.co.uk</a>></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Subject: <span class="gi">LL-L
"Language history" 2010.07.15 (02) [EN-NL]</span></p>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">My guess would be the
pre-Indo European language that forms a substrate to much Germanic language -
the speech that Claiborne calls "Folkish". He picked that name
because "folk" and its equivalents is a good example of a Germanic
but non-IE word. The IE word would be expected to be related to e.g. Latin <em>genus</em> - and indeed we do see such a word,
in English "kin" for example. Germanic seems to have a large amount
of such duplicates.</p>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">As much as half of the basic
Germanic vocabulary might be from these pre-IE people who the proto-Germanic
speakers met - though oddly what we know of Gothic is over 85% IE. That could
be just dumb luck - we don't have a huge sample of Gothic after all. But maybe
the ancestral Gothic speakers didn't have as much to do with the
"natives"?</p>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Paul</p>
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<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From:
R. F. Hahn <<a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com" target="_blank">sassisch@yahoo.com</a>></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject:
Language history<br>
<br>
Paul wrote above:</p>
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<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 153);">My guess
would be the pre-Indo European language that forms a substrate to much Germanic
language</span></p>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">And to the Celtic, Slavic and
many Romance languages as well, I’d say, if not to <i>all</i> European languages of primarily
Indo-European descent.<br>
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Perhaps these substrate languages were related to (poorly) known non-Indo-European
languages of the Iberian Peninsula, such as Iberian,
Tartessian and Aquitanian (the latter of which is the ancestor of modern Basque).<br>
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Regards,<br>
Reinhard/Ron<br>
Seattle, USA</p>
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