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<b>L O W L A N D S - L - 25 July 2010 - Volume 03<br>
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<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From:
<span class="gd"><span style="color: rgb(91, 16, 148);">Henry Pijffers</span></span><span class="gi"> </span><span class="go"><<a href="mailto:henry.pijffers@gmail.com">henry.pijffers@gmail.com</a>></span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject: <span class="gi">LL-L
"Vexillology" 2010.07.24 (02) [EN]</span></p>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Mark Dreyer skreev: </p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 102); margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal">I can only warn all
interested parties that trying to be all things to all men violates not only
the design but the spirit of the thing. If the flag embraces only one small faction,
whatever it may be, then so be it! I might add that a march-past of a
hundred standard-bearers waving the self-same bunting strikes me as the epitome
of tedium, if not a threat of something worse. But hold, what about a hundred
men wielding a hundred different, distinctive flags? Suddenly you have a
parade, if not a carnaval! & suddenly you have a visceral layout of the
locale's cultural foison plenty. Isn't that worth cultivating? To each his own,
& having different neighbours makes you special in your own way, as much as
they. </p>
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I do agree with Mark. Better to all be different than force something upon a
lot of people.<br>
<br>
I do see however why some people feel a need for 1 flag for all. So how about
this: we take the age old Saxon symbol of the white horse upon the red field,
but for everybody who wants to be different (like the East Frisians), they add
a little something to it.<br>
<br>
cheers,<br>
Henry Pijffers<br>
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PS</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 102);">Yes, Charlemagne did convert
our Saxon forebears at point of sword, but let us not suppose that they were
peaceable milquetoasts without animus to anybody</span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><br></p><p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">I don't know about the rest,
but at least in my home area they were provoked. Lebuinus used to destroy Saxon
places of worship and build churches instead. Then the Saxons came and
destroyed his churches. This went back and forth.</p>
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<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From:
<span class="gd"><span style="color: rgb(91, 16, 148);">Henry Pijffers</span></span><span class="gi"> </span><span class="go"><<a href="mailto:henry.pijffers@gmail.com">henry.pijffers@gmail.com</a>></span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject: <span class="gi">LL-L
"Vexillology" 2010.07.24 (04) [EN]</span></p>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Sandy skreev:</p>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 102);">To my mind traditional
heraldry is just propaganda for the illiterate.</span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><br></p><p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Never forget that these
"illiterate" are the masses, and that's what you will ultimately have
to work with, if you want to give them a flag. Us "better informed"
can discuss and propose all we want, but if the masses don't take it, that flag
won't fly.<br>
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good gaon,<br>
Henry</p>
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