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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">From: Henry Pijffers
<<a href="mailto:henry.pijffers@gmail.com">henry.pijffers@gmail.com</a>></p>

<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Subject: Re: LL-L "Vexillology" 2010.07.30 (01) [EN]</p>

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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Paul skreev:</p>

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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">The problem with coastlines
(or any other map) on a flag is that they are back-to-front on the other side
of the flag, unless you make the flag so thick that you can reverse the design
for the other side.</p>

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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Yes, you are absolutely
right. I hadn't thought of that yet. However, thinking about it now that you
mentioned it, wouldn't that also be a problem for existing tri-colour flags
where the bands are vertical? Or just about any flag that isn't symmetrical.<br>
<br>
cheers,<br>
Henry</p>

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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">From: <span class="gd"><span style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25);">Sandy Fleming</span></span><span class="gi"> </span><span class="go"><<a href="mailto:sandy@fleimin.demon.co.uk">sandy@fleimin.demon.co.uk</a>></span></p>



<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Subject: Re: LL-L "Vexillology" 2010.07.30 (01) [EN]</p>

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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">> From: R. F. Hahn <<a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com">sassisch@yahoo.com</a>><br>
> Subject: Vexillology<br>
><br>
> Henry,<br>
><br>
> Geographical shapes rarely, if ever, do well on flags, usually come<br>
> out looking a mess, and people don’t know what it’s supposed to be.</p>

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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">As well as that, there's a
danger with irregular shapes that someone may<br>
spot an unintended image in it, and after that's announced, it's hard<br>
for anybody to look at it without seeing it. This happened with the map<br>
of the EU (on a coin), and when it comes to the logo of the 2012 London<br>
Olympics, the less said the better!<br>
<br>
Back in the '80s and '90s design consultants were always making this<br>
mistake with logos. I've known companies who spent huge amounts of money<br>
getting an "image" from consultants only to end up being called
"the<br>
amoeba" and "sausages in a pan" and suchlike.</p>

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> For example:<br>
> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallery_of_flags_by_design#Map" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallery_of_flags_by_design#Map</a></p>

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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Interesting page. I see the
use of mountains doesn't originate with me!<br>
The Roswell
flag is my favourite of these, with the rising (or setting)<br>
sun and orthogonal rays and the morning (or evening) star.<br>
<br>
There has been some disparaging of complicated flags like the UK, USA<br>
and SA flags, but one thing that can be said for them is that they're<br>
easily recognisable independently of the colours. In the UK at the<br>
moment there seems to be a fad for Union Flags in assorted colour<br>
schemes (I've seen one in browns, one in pinks, one in metallic greys<br>
(on the roof of a Mini Cooper), and so on, that wouldn't have been used<br>
if the designer didn't have the option of changing the colours.<br>
<span style="color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"><br>
Sandy Fleming<br>
<a href="http://scotstext.org/" target="_blank">http://scotstext.org/</a></span></p>

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