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<b>L O W L A N D S - L - 31 July 2010 - Volume 01<br>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">From: <span class="gd"><span style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25);">Marcus Buck</span></span><span class="gi"> </span><span class="go"><<a href="mailto:list@marcusbuck.org">list@marcusbuck.org</a>></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Subject: <span class="gi">LL-L "Vexillology" 2010.07.30 (03) [EN]</span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 153);">From: Henry Pijffers <<a href="mailto:henry.pijffers@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 153);">henry.pijffers@gmail.com</span></a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 153);" lang="FR">Subject: Re: LL-L
"Vexillology" 2010.07.30 (01) [EN]</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 153);" lang="FR"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 153);">Yes, you are absolutely right. I hadn't thought of that yet.
However, thinking about it now that you mentioned it, wouldn't that also be a
problem for existing tri-colour flags where the bands are vertical? Or just
about any flag that isn't symmetrical.</span></p>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">There are different ways to
handle this problem: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag#Shapes_and_designs" target="_blank"><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag#Shapes_and_designs></a>.
There are even examples of flags where the reverse side has different symbols
on it (like the flag of Oregon
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Oregon" target="_blank"><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Oregon></a>).<br>
<br>
Marcus Buck</p>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">----------</p>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">From: <span class="gd"><span style="color: rgb(91, 16, 148);">Paul Finlow-Bates</span></span><span class="gi"> </span><span class="go"><<a href="mailto:wolf_thunder51@yahoo.co.uk">wolf_thunder51@yahoo.co.uk</a>></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Subject: <span class="gi">LL-L "Vexillology" 2010.07.30 (03) [EN]</span></p>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Henry het geskryf:</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">"...wouldn't that also
be a problem for existing tri-colour flags where the bands are vertical? Or
just about any flag that isn't symmetrical?"</p>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Not really. The convention
with any flag is that the symbol or image is in the same place relative to the
flagpole, called the "hoist". For example, whichever way you look at
the USA
flag, the blue quarter ("canton") with the stars is always at the
top, next to the hoist. If the trailing edge ("fly") is on the right,
thats where the stripes are, but from the other side they'll be on the left. They
are still in the fly.</p>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Animals, such as Sri Lanka's
lion or the Welsh dragon, should always have their heads nearest the hoist,
otherwise they are running away. Same with vertical tricoleurs like France, Belgium
or Italy:
the order of colours is always hoist-middle-fly, whichever way round the flag
happens to be flapping.</p>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">But the convention we have
come to accept with maps is that west is on the left, east is one the right. If
(for example) the USA had a
map on it's flag, when the wind was blowing the other way, Boston
would be on the west coast and Seattle
would be on the east. Might do them good to get a different view, but it
wouldn't be right.</p>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">The normal convention for
printing flags in books is hoist to the left, fly to the right. If the picture
doesn't actually show a flagpole, that's what we assume. Scandinavian crosses
like Denmark's
are offset to the left in such pictures only because the hoist is assumed to be
on the left. If you actually draw the pole, you could do it either way.</p>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Paul</p>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">From: <span class="gd"><span style="color: rgb(91, 16, 148);">Paul Finlow-Bates</span></span><span class="gi"> </span><span class="go"><<a href="mailto:wolf_thunder51@yahoo.co.uk">wolf_thunder51@yahoo.co.uk</a>></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Subject: <span class="gi">LL-L "Vexillology" 2010.07.30 (03) [EN]</span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From:
<span style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25);">Sandy Fleming</span> <<a href="http://uk.mc264.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sandy@fleimin.demon.co.uk" target="_blank">sandy@fleimin.demon.co.uk</a>></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Subject: Re: LL-L "Vexillology" 2010.07.30 (01) [EN] </p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">"
This happened with the map of the EU (on a coin), and when it comes to the logo
of the 2012 London Olympics, the less said the better!" </p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">That
coin map was priceless. For the uninitiated, I recommend looking at a typical
map of Finland and the Scandinavian peninsula, and letting your imagination run
wild. Except for the coin, you didn't need much imagination! </p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br>
Paul </p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Derby </p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">England</p>
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