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<b>L O W L A N D S - L - 08 August 2010 - Volume 02<br>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">From: <span class="gd"><span style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25);">Mike Morgan</span></span><span class="gi"> </span><span class="go"><<a href="mailto:mwmbombay@gmail.com">mwmbombay@gmail.com</a>></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Subject: <img src="file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/Ron/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtml1/01/clip_image001.gif" width="1" border="0" height="1"><span class="gi">Re: LL-L "Names"
2010.08.07 (01) [EN]</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">A genealogical question ...<br>
<br>
Although of mostly Celtic (Welsh-Scots-Irish) background, my most recently
immigrated ancestor was a Gusler (if memory serves, a Jacob/Jakob) ... who went
over to the US
in 1806. <br>
<br>
Anyone on the list have any insights as to WHERE in Germany a man with such a
name would have come from ... obviously a place with geese, but more
specifically?<br>
<br>
I have never met anyone in the US
or elsewhere with this name who is not directly related, so assume there may
not have been lots of goose-herders immigrating back then ;-)<br>
<br>
just curious...</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"> U
C > || Mike Morgan<br>
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linguist</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">soon to be @ IGNOU-UCLan (inshallah)</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"> Applied Sign Linguistics Programme</p>
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New Delhi, India</p>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">From: <span class="gd"><span style="color: rgb(91, 16, 148);">Jonny</span></span><span class="gi"> </span><span class="go"><<a href="mailto:jonny.meibohm@arcor.de">jonny.meibohm@arcor.de</a>></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Subject: <span class="gi"><span style="" lang="FR">LL-L
"Names" 2010.08.07 (01) [EN]</span></span></p>
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<p style="font-family: courier new,monospace;" class="MsoNormal">Beste Anja,<span style="" lang="FR"></span></p>
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<p style="font-family: courier new,monospace;" class="MsoNormal">Du schreyvst:<span style="" lang="FR"></span></p>
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<p style="font-family: courier new,monospace;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">>> "fraam" certainly means "pious". </span><span style="" lang="FR"></span></p>
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<p style="font-family: courier new,monospace;" class="MsoNormal">I don't think so,
because (according to Schiller-Lübben as well as to GRIMM) the meaning 'pius'
is not the main relevance of "fraam, vram, vrom, fromm". I'd like to
presume that it basically means "ehrbar" (honourable) at first.</p>
<p style="font-family: courier new,monospace;" class="MsoNormal">At Schiller-Lübben I
even didn't find 'pius' for the Middlesaxon "vram, vrom(m)".</p>
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<p style="font-family: courier new,monospace;" class="MsoNormal">Allerbest!</p>
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<p style="font-family: courier new,monospace;" class="MsoNormal">Jonny Meibohm</p>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">Lower </span>Saxony, Germany</p>
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<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From:
R. F. Hahn <<a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com" target="_blank">sassisch@yahoo.com</a>></p>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Indeed! One of the original meanings
of Low Saxon <i>fraam</i> being ‘honorable’, ‘praiseworthy’ and so forth seems to
be preserved in the phrase you gave us, Anja: <i>de frame Gott</i>, namely with
reference to God, in which 'pious' does not apply.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Reinhard/Ron<br>
Seattle, USA</p>
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