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<b>L O W L A N D S - L - 30 August 2010 - Volume 03<br>
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<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From:
<span class="gd"><span style="color: rgb(0, 104, 28);">Hellinckx Luc</span></span><span class="gi"> </span><span class="go"><<a href="mailto:luc.hellinckx@gmail.com">luc.hellinckx@gmail.com</a>></span></p>

<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject:
<span class="gi">LL-L "Language politics"</span></p>

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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">On 30/08/10, at 21:46,
Lowlands-L List wrote:</p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="color: navy;"><span style="word-spacing: 0px;">I imagine that this is particularly
common among overseas Scots that, while flaunting their Scottishness, are
really not well informed about today’s Scotland. However, I would not be
surprised to find out that this attitude still prevails in Scotland as
well, at least in certain sectors of society.</span></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="color: navy;">I have noticed similar attitudes among overseas Germans and
Netherlanders regarding Low Saxon as a recognized language.</span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="color: navy;">Can any of you share further information on this?</span></p>



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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Usually, the more distant a
language is from the main "power"-language, the easier it is to
become recognized, I think. (Former) Sister languages especially seem to get
less recognition...maybe because it often takes a long time (and fierce
competition) for the standard language to become official. "Sisters"
can then get jealous ;=)</p>

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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">In Italy, every
Romance language, different from standard Italian is still considered an
Italian dialect, even though most of these actually evolved from separate
languages that were once sister languages of Latin (compare with Lowlands Scots
and Low Saxon), but who have (recently) become influenced by standard Italian.</p>

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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Recognition is also a
relative concept. Who should recognize you? Only the authorities that could be
financially beneficial...or the whole wide world?</p>

<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Friulian for example is
recognized by the Italian state, but neighbouring Venetian is only recognized
at the regional level.</p>

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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Kind greetings,</p>

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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(136, 136, 136);">Luc Hellinckx,
Halle, Belgium</span></p>

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<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From:
R. F. Hahn <<a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com" target="_blank">sassisch@yahoo.com</a>></p>

<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject:
Language politics</p>

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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Thanks, Luc.</p>

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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">It’s similar in most countries
in which sister languages are used, at least in Europe.
<br></p><p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><br></p><p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Sweden
refuses to recognize as separate any Scandinavian language within its borders. <br></p><p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><br></p><p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">

France treats Occitan
as a French dialect group although it is derived from a different parent language. <br></p><p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><br></p><p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">

Standard, Cappadocian, Cretan, Pontic and Tsakonian Greek are derived from different
Hellenic languages but are now treated as though they were one language, Standard
Greek being the only valid form. <br></p><p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><br></p><p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">And the list goes on.</p>

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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Regards,<br>
Reinhard/Ron<br>
Seattle, USA</p>

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