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<b>L O W L A N D S - L - 30 August 2010 - Volume 02<br>
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<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From:
<span class="gd"><span style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25);">andy eagle</span></span><span class="gi"> </span><span class="go"><<a href="mailto:andy@scots-online.org">andy@scots-online.org</a>></span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject:
<span class="gi">LL-L "Language politics" 2010.08.30 (01) [EN]</span></p>
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<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Ron
Wrote,</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="color: navy;">Last Friday afternoon I had another one of those ?discussions?
regarding<br>
Scots. This one was with a self-proclaimed ?pure Scotswoman? who was born<br>
and raised in Canada and
explained that her parents had still been Gaelic<br>
speakers, and that in the Toronto
area.<br>
<br>
As is apparently common among overseas and long-time expatriate Scots, she<br>
was not aware of current language politics in Scotland
and the rest of<br>
Europe. I explained it to her, and whenever I
referred to ?Scots? she would<br>
talk about Scottish English and would sometimes even ?correct? me<br>
accordingly. I clarified that they were not considered the same. At first<br>
she thought I was only voicing my own opinion and gave me the ?What would *<br>
you* know?? look. I explained the official position and attempted to give<br>
her a little background information, which she dismissed by rolling her eyes<br>
and giving me a ?Balderdash!? smile. It probably meant that she did not<br>
believe me and/or that she thought those developments are quite ridiculous.<br>
<br>
I am not quite sure if this reaction and attitude are particularly common<br>
among Gaelic speakers and their descendants who like to simplify the issue<br>
as ?Gaelic versus English,? because I remember a similarly dismissive<br>
reaction from an actual Gaelic speaker from Canada. However, I have also<br>
noticed somewhat dismissive attitudes when talking to Lowlands-born Scots<br>
that left Scotland
before the European Languages Charter became an issue.<br>
They tended to refer to *braid Scots* as ?slang? or ?jargon,? implying ?of<br>
Scottish English.?<br>
<br>
I imagine that this is particularly common among overseas Scots that, while<br>
flaunting their Scottishness, are really not well informed about today?s<br>
Scotland.
However, I would not be surprised to find out that this attitude<br>
still prevails in Scotland
as well, at least in certain sectors of society.<br>
<br>
I have noticed similar attitudes among overseas Germans and Netherlanders<br>
regarding Low Saxon as a recognized language.<br>
<br>
Can any of you share further information on this?</span></p>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Try the Daily Express as an
example.<br>
<a href="http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/194590/Schools-teach-children-how-to-text-in-slang/" target="_blank">http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/194590/Schools-teach-children-how-to-text-in-slang/</a><br>
What they are referring to is at<br>
<a href="http://www.ltscotland.org.uk/knowledgeoflanguage/scots/scotsandliteracy/curriculum/index.asp" target="_blank">http://www.ltscotland.org.uk/knowledgeoflanguage/scots/scotsandliteracy/curriculum/index.asp</a><br>
<br>
The comments after online news articles dealing with Scots or Gaelic issues are
often equally ill-informed and negative.<br>
<br>
Andy Eagle</p>
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