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<b>L O W L A N D S - L - 03 September 2010 - Volume 04<br>
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<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From:
<span class="gd"><span style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25);">Kevin & Cheryl Caldwell</span></span><span class="gi"> </span><span class="go"><<a href="mailto:kevin.caldwell1963@verizon.net">kevin.caldwell1963@verizon.net</a>></span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject:
<span class="gi">LL-L "Tradition" 2010.09.03 (03) [EN]</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">American
calendars are usually printed with Sunday as the first day of the week, and
I’ve always considered Sunday to be the first day of the week (probably because
of my strong Christian upbringing in which we always talked about Sunday as the
first day of the week). A week has two “ends” in a sense (i.e., a front end and
a back end, so to speak), so calling Saturday and Sunday a “weekend” has never
bothered me. Monday is the first day of the <i>work</i> week, which lasts five
days.</span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I also don’t
consider Sunday a “day of rest” necessarily, but rather a day of worship
(because the resurrection occurred on the first day of the week). Saturday is
more what I’d call a “day of rest,” but I don’t really observe a formal day of
rest.</span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Kevin Caldwell</span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Laurel</span><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">, Maryland</span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="color: navy;">From: M.-L.
Lessing <<a href="mailto:marless@gmx.de" target="_blank"><span style="color: navy;">marless@gmx.de</span></a>></span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="color: navy;">Subject: LL-L
"Tradition" 2010.09.03 (02) [EN]</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-family: times new roman,serif;"><span style="color: navy;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in; font-family: times new roman,serif;"><span style="font-size: 13pt; color: navy;">Hello everyone,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in; font-family: times new roman,serif;"><span style="font-size: 13pt; color: navy;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in; font-family: times new roman,serif;"><span style="font-size: 13pt; color: navy;">apart from the matter of calendar weeks and religious traditions,
is there anyone living in a western country who has the <em>feeling </em>that a
new week begins on sunday? I definitely have not; when I wish you "Schönes
Wochenende" this clearly includes the Sunday; and for all the people I
know Monday is the first day of the new week. When somebody says "We will
spend this weekend on Fehmarn" everybody knows they will go to
Fehmarn for Saturday and Sunday. It would feel curious to <em>begin </em>a
new week with a day of rest. I would feel uneasy with it. Usually rest is what
you need when you have <em>finished </em>something. Or what say you?</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in; font-family: times new roman,serif;"><span style="font-size: 13pt; color: navy;">Hartlich</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in; font-family: times new roman,serif;"><span style="font-size: 13pt; color: navy;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 13pt; color: navy;"><span style="font-family: times new roman,serif;">Marlou</span></span></p>
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<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From:
"Peter Snepvangers" <<a href="mailto:snepvangers@optushome.com.au">snepvangers@optushome.com.au</a>></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject:
LL-L"Tradition" 2010.09.03 (03) [EN]</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Ben,</p><p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><br><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">You wrote:<span style="color: navy;"><span style="word-spacing: 0px;">I'm on a list about the
Norwegian language <a href="mailto:norsklassen-subscribe@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank"><span style="color: navy;">mailto:norsklassen-subscribe@yahoogroups.com</span></a>.
Every now and then I hear dates demarcated in week numbers that, how liberal of
them, start on a Monday. They were asking if this practice goes on in the
Brittish Isles or elsewhere, being that they mentioned that the EU does it.</span></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: black;"><span style="word-spacing: 0px;"> </span></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: black;">Hello Ben, Luc,
Ron, Sandy et al,</span></p><p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><br><span style="color: black;"></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: black;"><span style="word-spacing: 0px;">Seems like we have 2 separate traditions here. Naming
the days of the week after old Norse, Germanic or Roman gods based on the 28
day lunar cycle and another tradition of naming the days in a numerical fashion
such as the Hebrew (Sabbath is the seventh day, Saturday) and Mandarin Chinese
(xing shi yi is Monday, first day of the week).</span></span></p><p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><br><span style="color: black;"><span style="word-spacing: 0px;"></span></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: black;"><span style="word-spacing: 0px;">Some countries have a mish mash of both systems due to
religion etc. Why would Mandarin with its long history not have a
celestial tradition I wonder?</span></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: black;"><span style="word-spacing: 0px;"> </span></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: black;">Cheers</span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: black;"><span style="word-spacing: 0px;">Peter Snepvangers</span></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: black;"><span style="word-spacing: 0px;">Sydney Australia</span></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: black;"><span style="word-spacing: 0px;"><a href="mailto:snepvangers@optushome.com.au" target="_blank">snepvangers@optushome.com.au</a></span></span></p>
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<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From:
R. F. Hahn <<a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com" target="_blank">sassisch@yahoo.com</a>></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject:
Tradition</p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Peter,<br>
<br>
The Chinese system you referred to is fairly new and is foreign-inspired.</p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">The
original Chinese week had ten days:</p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">The Chinese 10 day week
went as far back as the Shang Dynasty (1200-1045 BC).<sup id="cite_ref-14">[15]</sup>
The law in the Han Dynasty (206 BC – AD 220) required officials of the empire
to rest every 5 days, called "mu", while it was changed into 10 days
in the Tang Dynasty (AD 618 – 907), called "huan" or xún (旬). Months were almost 3 weeks long (alternating 29 and 30 days to keep
in line with the lunation). The weeks were labelled shàng xún (上旬), zhōng xún (中旬), and xià xún (下旬) which mean roughly "upper", "middle" and
"lower" week.</p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">[<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Week#China">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Week#China</a>]</p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Regards,<br>
Reinhard/Ron<br>
Seattle, USA</p>
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