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<b>L O W L A N D S - L - 05 September 2010 - Volume 01<br>
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<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From:
<span class="gd"><span style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25);">Sandy Fleming</span></span><span class="gi"> </span><span class="go"><<a href="mailto:sandy@fleimin.demon.co.uk">sandy@fleimin.demon.co.uk</a>></span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject:
<span class="gi">LL-L "Tradition" 2010.09.04 (01) [DE-EN-NDS]</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">> From: Hellinckx Luc
<<a href="mailto:luc.hellinckx@gmail.com">luc.hellinckx@gmail.com</a>><br>
></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">> I think they did divide
a month somewhat. A lunar cycle lasts roughly<br>
> 28 days (moon > month), half that is a fortnight (= fourteen nights),<br>
> and half that again (7 nights) would be a week, corresponding with the<br>
> 4 phases of the moon. Whether they attached a special significance to<br>
> the changing of weeks, I highly doubt. Then when religion came about<br>
> and Jews were gathering on a Saturday, I guess it's convenient for<br>
> Muslims and Christians to choose either one day before or one day<br>
> after Saturday for a religious celebration. Maybe because in the early<br>
> days, some liked to worship more than one god, and therefore<br>
> celebrations should not coincide?</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">I read somewhere, once, ages
ago, that the earliest Christians were in<br>
the habit of meeting secretly once the Jewish celebrations had finished<br>
(presumably they either still saw themselves as Jews or had to pretend<br>
to do the Sabbath). These meetings could extend well into the night and<br>
eventually became part of Sunday. Presumably this is all just guessing.<br>
<br>
> From: jmtait <<a href="mailto:jmtait@wirhoose.co.uk">jmtait@wirhoose.co.uk</a>><br>
><br>
> Subject: LL-L "Tradition" 2010.09.03 (03) [EN]<br>
><br>
> Sandy wrote:<br>
><br>
> From: Sandy Fleming <<a href="mailto:sandy@fleimin.demon.co.uk">sandy@fleimin.demon.co.uk</a>><br>
> Subject: LL-L "Tradition" 2010.09.03 (02) [EN]</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">> Hmm. So why are all the
days called after Roman and Germanic deities,<br>
> then?</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><br>
Oh yeah. I dunno :\<br>
<span style="color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"><br>
Sandy Fleming<br>
<a href="http://scotstext.org/" target="_blank">http://scotstext.org/</a></span></p>
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<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From:
<span class="gd"><span style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25);">Roger Thijs, Euro-Support, Inc.</span></span><span class="gi"> </span><span class="go"><<a href="mailto:roger.thijs@euro-support.be">roger.thijs@euro-support.be</a>></span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject:
<span class="gi">LL-L "Tradition" 2010.09.04 (02) [EN]</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">There has been international
standardization as to the order of days and weeks:</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">ISO 8601 gives (translating
from a standardization magazine from 1989):</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">- The first day of the week
is Monday</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">- The week of the year with
number 1 is the week that includes the first Thursday of the week.</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">I see that in Belgian
diaries the week starts with Monday.</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">I have a little COOP
2010-2011 diary of Harvard/MIT: it starts the week with Sunday.</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Anyhow International
Standardization often applies to all countries except to the US.</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">However the US is not alone, I
remember I bought a diary several years ago in Bejing, and its week
numbering (for that year) was one unit offset with the ISO system. I don't
remember whether the weeks started on Sunday or Monday in that one.</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">The (occupied) Southern Netherlands have had weeks of 10 days (decades)
from 1895 till 1802.</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">cf. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Republican_Calendar" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Republican_Calendar</a> </p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">See also:</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monday" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monday</a> </p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Week" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Week</a> </p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Week_number#Week_numbering" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Week_number#Week_numbering</a> </p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Emotionally Sunday has
always been the last day of the week for me, a day of rest after a week of hard
work. We were also used to wear "Sunday clothes" on Sunday. In our
Roman Catholic tradition one was used to go to one of the Sunday Masses.
One was "read" at 7 am, a second "sung" at 10 am. In
my youth the service was still in Latin, pronounced in the S-way: Sézar for
Caesar, not Kaizar as modern scholars often do. The tradition of going to
Sunday Roman Catholic services is fading out in Belgium.</p>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Regards,</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Roger</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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