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<b>L O W L A N D S - L - 25 September 2010 - Volume 01<br>
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<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From:
<span class="gd"><span style="color: rgb(0, 104, 28);">Hellinckx Luc</span></span><span class="gi"> </span><span class="go"><<a href="mailto:luc.hellinckx@gmail.com">luc.hellinckx@gmail.com</a>></span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject:
<span class="gi">LL-L "Language politics"</span></p>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Beste Marcus,</p>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">On 25/09/10, at 01:06,
Lowlands-L List wrote:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="color: navy;">From: Marcus Buck <<a href="mailto:list@marcusbuck.org" target="_blank"><span style="color: navy;">list@marcusbuck.org</span></a>></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="color: navy;">Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2010.09.24 (01) [EN]</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1in; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="color: navy;">From: Hellinckx Luc <<a href="mailto:luc.hellinckx@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span style="color: navy;">luc.hellinckx@gmail.com</span></a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="color: navy;">Subject: LL-L "Language learning"</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1in; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="color: navy;">You wrote:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1.5in; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="color: navy;">Sarrazin wrote a book about how the Germans will go extinct if they
don't do anything about it ("Deutschland schafft sich ab"). He had nice
populistic theses like "I do not want to excuse myself for being
German", "German must be spoken on German schoolyards",
"too much young resident aliens are criminal", "lock away child
molesters forever" etc., and in interviews he offered nice wisdoms with
enormous scientific depth like "all Jews share a gene"</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1in; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="color: navy;"><br>
Sarrazin's family name doesn't make himself sound über-German: < Saracens.
Always happens with the "last who got in"...they seem to have these
"Après moi, le déluge" feelings more than any other. </span></p>
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Boundary value problem for human geographers.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="color: navy;"><br>
Sarrazin has Huguenot roots. That means his family is in Germany for
more than 300 years. And if you would confront him with his foreign roots he'd
take it as acknowledgement of his arguments ;-)</span></p>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Not valid.</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">a) Huguenots often occupied
important positions in French society before their exodus.</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">b) They fled to places that
were either also Reformed or where religion was not an issue.</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Under these conditions of
course, Huguenots were pretty welcome back in those days (in
Germany/Prussia). </p>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">I don't know precisely what
Mr. Sarrazin's opinion is about present-day migrants (or minority people) in Germany, but
I'm quite sure you cannot compare the situation because, </p>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">a) said population is often
not rich and powerful </p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">b) they frequently have a
non-Christian religious background<br style="">
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="color: navy;">He's not an outright racist.</span></p>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Of course not, times have
changed. Even obstinate guys have learned a thing or two from the past. The
message has been revamped.<br style="">
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="color: navy;">He's more focused on culture like "assimilate or stay away
from Germany".
(Although he sometimes resorts to arguments that are hard to interpret in a
non-racist way.) So he'd take his own French (and possible Saracen) roots as a
positive story of assimilation (the euphemism "integration" is used
when "assimilation" is meant in Germany's public discussion).</span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">See above. Plus, using
personal arguments as overall justification for national measures is hardly professional.</p>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Besides, regarding
"assimilation", official language in Dutch Reformed "Waalse
Kerken" is still French. </p>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Kind greetings,</p>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(136, 136, 136);">Luc Hellinckx,
Halle, Belgium</span></p>
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