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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">From: Hannelore Hinz <<a href="mailto:HanneHinz@t-online.de" target="_blank">HanneHinz@t-online.de</a>></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Subject: LL-L
"Music" 2010.11.02 (02) [EN]</p>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Oh! Da geht die Post ab,
welch ein Temperament!</p>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">So habe ich mir mehrmals den
ersten musikalischen Film (zugleich mehrsprachig) angesehen.</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Niemand wollte den glänzenden
Auftritt der FOKN Bois versäumen. Beendruckend und auch nachddenklich, </p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">was sich so hinter den
Kulissen abspielt.</p>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Hanne</p>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">From: <span class="gd"><span style="color: rgb(91, 16, 148);">pbarrett</span></span><span class="gi"> </span><span class="go"><<a href="mailto:pbarrett@cox.net">pbarrett@cox.net</a>></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Subject: <span class="gi">LL-L
"Music" 2010.11.02 (02) [EN]</span></p>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">One of my funnest moments
was in working with a girl from Liberia
who spoke Pidgin English and finding that the word for "who?" is
"whodat?" </p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">While "whodat" has
become famous b/c of the New Orleans Saints football team, my mind back then
went immediately to that great comedy routine in the movies from the 40s (I
think) where a Black character says, "Who dat say who dat?"</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">In googling this I found,
perusing 19 pages of google, nothing of substance on this. Clearly, whodat must
be the word for who in Gullah, the English Creole spoken on the Sea Islands off
Georgia and South Carolina. From
there, it must have slipped into African-American Vernacular English and then
into minstrelsey, vaudeville, and movies. From there, it moved into the general
circulation in WW II. Only the last is documented in anything I saw in a search
of google. I came up with the rest of this myself, so here is a case of pidgin,
again, contributing a common phrase to English, like top side and look see,
with little knowledge of its origin.</p>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">The main thrust of my
interest in this is how the focus goes immediately to the current, the
up-to-date, the commercial, rather than to the simple fact that this expression
has been around for several centuries among Africans and African-Americans
using their variety of English. That's all ignored in the rush to embrace what
is currently popular. Bah!</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Pat Barrett <a href="mailto:pbarrett@cox.net" target="_blank">pbarrett@cox.net</a><br>
<a href="http://ideas.lang-learn.us/barrett.php" target="_blank">http://ideas.lang-learn.us/barrett.php</a></p>
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<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From:
R. F. Hahn <<a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com" target="_blank">sassisch@yahoo.com</a>></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Subject: Music<br>
<br>
Nice to hear from you again, Pat!<br>
<br>
Ghanaian Pidgin is considered a dialect of the more widely used English-based West
African Pidgin Language. It retains a good deal of words and expressions that are
associated with 17th- and 18th-century Africa trade,
including slave trade. For instance, the word for “to beat’ or ‘to hit’ is <i>lash</i>
...<br>
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Regards,<br>
Reinhard/Ron<br>
Seattle, USA</p>
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