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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">From: <span class="gd"><span style="color:#C88900">Cliff Smuts</span></span><span class="gi"> </span><span class="go"><<a href="mailto:csmuts@xsinet.co.za">csmuts@xsinet.co.za</a>></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Subject: <span class="gi">LL-L
"Onomatopoeia" 2011.04.07 (02) [EN]</span><br>
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<a href="mailto:csmuts@xsinet.co.za" target="_blank">csmuts@xsinet.co.za</a></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">klank na boot sing</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">klank = sound</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">naboots = imitate</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">ing = suffix for abstract
noun</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">When writing or pronouncing,
we normally break up between two consonants (I will not go deeper into this,
but this is the general practice); hence: while the word for imitate is
"naboots" the ts is pronounced in two different syllables.</p>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Regards</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(136, 136, 136);">Cliff Smuts</span></p>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">From: <span class="gd"><span style="color:#790619">Roland Desnerck</span></span><span class="gi"> </span><span class="go"><<a href="mailto:roland.desnerck@telenet.be">roland.desnerck@telenet.be</a>></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Subject: <span class="gi">LL-L
"Onomatopoeia" 2011.04.07 (02) [EN]</span><br>
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Beste olleogare (alltogether),</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Zeg maar:</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">klank na boot sing.</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Maar het komt uit: </p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">een klank (a sound)
nabootsen (imitate)...</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">nabootsing = imitation...</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Toe tnoasteki (= tot
volgende keer= to the next time)</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(136, 136, 136);">Roland
Desnerck</span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(136, 136, 136);">Rogierlaan 25</span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(136, 136, 136);">8400 Oostende</span></p>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">From: <span class="gd"><span style="color:#5B1094">Mark and Ruth Dreyer</span></span><span class="gi"> </span><span class="go"><<a href="mailto:mrdreyer@lantic.net">mrdreyer@lantic.net</a>></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Subject: <span class="gi">LL-L
"Onomatopoeia" 2011.04.07 (02) [EN]</span><br>
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<span style="color:black">Dear Heather:</span></p>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Subject: LL-L
"Onomatopoeia"</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Please how do you pronounce
this delightful word 'klanknabootsing'</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">So:</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">klank na bootsing</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Actually as far as emphesis
goes it is more double-trocheeic than anything else, accent on all four
syllables. This is not common in Afrikaans & rather fun on that account.
However it breaks down like this:</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">klank(sound) na(towards)
bootsing(collision)</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">I have enjoyed this word
myself, from early childhood. Some great chasms around God's Window in the
Transvaal Drakensberge, given a bit of morning-mist, will toss the whole word
back in a wonderful way. I expect you know it is one of a few sinonyms for
'echo', in Afrikaans, also 'mimic' & 'mock'.</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Mind you I would say only
the first part, 'klank' (sound) is anamatopoeic. In my opinion, though, that is
not the only prerequisite for a word to sound good.</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Yrs,</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Mark.</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Yrs,</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Mark</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">From: "dealangeam"
<<a href="mailto:atdelange@iburst.co.za">atdelange@iburst.co.za</a>></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Subject: <span class="gi">LL-L
"Onomatopoeia" 2011.04.07 (02) [EN]</span><br>
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Heather Rendall wrote: </p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">"Please how do you
pronounce this delightful word 'klanknabootsing'"</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Thank you for bringing this
Afrikaans word under the attention of Laaglanders.</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">It is the translation for
"onomatopoeia”, but self not a onomatopoeietic word.</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Heather, the syllables are:
klank+na+boots+ing</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">But voicing them goes like:
klank+na+boot+sing</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">A literal translation into
English, avoiding words from Latin or Greek, might be “sound-copying”.</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">The Proto-Germanic word for
klank=sound is "klankaz".</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Dutch also has the word
klank. I wonder what is the case for Low German. Perhaps Ron will help us.</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Best wishes</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">At de Lange</p>
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<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From:
R. F. Hahn <<a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com" target="_blank">sassisch@yahoo.com</a>></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject:
Onomatopoeia</p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Mark
and At, I, too, suspect that <i>klank</i> ‘sound’ is onomatopoeic in origin, as
are connected nouns and verbs.</p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Afrikaans:
<i>klank</i> [kl<span lang="ZH-CN">ɑ</span>̃ˑŋk]</p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Dutch:
<i>klank</i> [kl<span lang="ZH-CN">ɑ</span>ˑŋk]</p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Low
Saxon: (NL) <i>klaank</i>, (DE) <i>Klang</i> [klaˑŋk]</p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Limburgish:
<i>klank</i> [kl<span lang="ZH-CN">ɑ</span>ˑŋk]</p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">German:
<i>Klang</i> [klaŋ] (Missingsch <i>Klang</i> [klaˑŋk])</p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Yiddish:
קלאַנג<span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span>
(<i>klang</i>) [klaŋ]</p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Old
German: <i>klang</i></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Middle
German: <i>klanc</i></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Note also verbs such as Low
Saxon <i>klingen</i> [ˈkl<span lang="ZH-CN">ɪ</span>ŋ<span lang="ZH-CN">ː</span>], German <i>klingen</i> [ˈkl<span lang="ZH-CN">ɪ</span>ŋən], Yiddish קלינגען<span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span> [ˈkl<span lang="ZH-CN">ɪ</span>ŋgən] ‘to ring’, ‘to sound’ (Old German <i>klingan</i>),
Low Saxon <i>klingeln</i> [ˈklɪŋl̩n],
German <i>klingeln</i> [ˈkl<span lang="ZH-CN">ɪ</span>ŋəln] ‘to jingle’. Low Saxon <i>Klingel</i> [ˈklɪŋl̩], German <i>Klingel</i> [ˈkl<span lang="ZH-CN">ɪ</span>ŋəl], Limburgish <i>Klingel</i> [ˈklɪŋl̩]
‘small bell’ (NB: /-l-/ frequentive).</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Cf. English “clang”, Latin <i>clangere</i>
‘to make a sharp sound’</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Regards,</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Reinhard/Ron</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Seattle, USA</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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