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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">From: <span class="gd"><span style="color:#5B1094">Isaac M. Davis</span></span><span class="gi"> </span><span class="go"><<a href="mailto:isaacmacdonalddavis@gmail.com">isaacmacdonalddavis@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
Subject: <span class="gi">LL-L "Language history" 2011.04.18 (02) [EN]</span><br>
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Paul Finlow-Bates wrote:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="color: navy;">You may not need to share a language to interbreed, but having
interbred, you (or your offspring) are pretty likely to share a language.</span></p>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">That could be true, in the
first generation at least. But depending on whether the culture in question is
matrilocal or patrilocal, the next generation (if not the first generation
itself, only having one example of the non-local language to draw from) would
speak mostly or only the local language.</p>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Best,</p>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Isaac M. Davis </p>
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<span style="color:#888888">-- <br>
<br>
"As I would not be a slave, so I would not be a master."<br>
—Abraham Lincoln</span></p>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">From: <span class="gd"><span style="color:#790619">Mike Morgan</span></span><span class="gi"> </span><span class="go"><<a href="mailto:mwmbombay@gmail.com">mwmbombay@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
Subject: <span class="gi">LL-L "Language history" 2011.04.18 (02) [EN]</span><br>
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Marcus writes re Ron/Reinhard's comment son Indogermanisch that:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="color: navy;">I don't think this is a good example. It was named after the two
geographic extremes among the language families united by the Indogermanic
superfamily. There's nothing nationalist about that.</span></p>
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Well, if you consider that the extremes are deinfed in one way rather than
another by one people ratehr than another, maybe. <br>
<br>
But if a Spaniard defined the Eastern extreme of the Indo-whateveryoumaycallit
language family, it might be called Indo-Romance, or if an Irishman did the
name calling, it might be Indo-Celtic... and if the Saka-Khotanese were still
around to do some naming, it might be Turpano-Icelandean! (oh, alas! if ONLy we
KNEW for certain the Urheimat.... THEN we could have a name!)</p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="color: navy;">"Indoeuropean"
is the true nationalist term. The English language almost exclusively used the
term "Indogermanic" until WW I when "Indoeuropean" sprung
up.</span></p>
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Well, maybe. Or maybe it was the real ANTI-nazionalist term ;-) </p>
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One CAN of course claim to go a totally neutral route and simply call it the IE
language family, claiming that IE is just IE, and doesn't "stand for"
Indo-European or anything (just as the SIL folks now sometimes claim that SIL
does NOT stand for Summer Institute of Linguistics)...<br style="mso-special-character:
line-break">
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">mwm || U C > || mike ||
мика || माईक || マイク || மாய்க் (aka Dr Michael W
Morgan)<br>
===========================================================<br>
Senior Consultant<br>
BA in Applied Sign Language Studies (BAASLS)<br>
Indira Gandhi National Open Univeristy<br>
New Delhi, India<br>
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<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="color: gray;">"The sad truth is that most evil is done by people who never
make up their minds to be good or evil." (Hannah Arendt)</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="color: gray;">"When good people in any country cease their vigilance and
struggle, then evil men prevail." (Pearl S. Buck)</span></p>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">From: <span class="gd"><span style="color:#790619">Mike Morgan</span></span><span class="gi"> </span><span class="go"><<a href="mailto:mwmbombay@gmail.com">mwmbombay@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
Subject: <span class="gi">LL-L "Language history" 2011.04.18 (01) [EN]</span><br>
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I have, sitting on my self a work that demonstrates that Sumerian is a Turkic
language written in that same vain...<br>
<br>
When i first moved to Japan, aeons ago (year of the emperor Heisei 1 to be
exact) as a historical linguist who was also embarking on his study of the
Japanese language, i started to buy any books I could find that dealt with
theories of the origin and geneology of Japanese. There were soem books in the
West (Roy Miller was a big proponent of the Altaic theory of Japanese), but
mostly I was buying books in Japanese by japanese. After a short while (1
year?) I realized that all these books would probably best be reshelved, moved
from Linguistics to Humour... or Wackie Theories. The most
"scientific" monograph (it was FULL of tables and charts and numbers,
so it MUST have been felt to be science) porposed the Dravidian theory of the
origin of Japanese... <br>
<br>
(In addition to language books, there was a whole ton of books on "Theory
of the Japanese" (日本人論)... all part of a quest for
finding a "place" for Japanese culture and identity ... in the world
yet unique... a quest very much in the spirit of the 18th-19th century
(German) Romantic Nationalist quest for "Volkgeist"<br style="mso-special-character:line-break">
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">mwm || U C > || mike ||
мика || माईक || マイク || மாய்க் (aka Dr Michael W
Morgan)<br>
===========================================================<br>
Senior Consultant<br>
BA in Applied Sign Language Studies (BAASLS)<br>
Indira Gandhi National Open Univeristy<br>
New Delhi, India<br>
===========================================================</p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="color: gray;">"The sad truth is that most evil is done by people who never
make up their minds to be good or evil." (Hannah Arendt)</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="color: gray;">"When good people in any country cease their vigilance and
struggle, then evil men prevail." (Pearl S. Buck)</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </p>
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