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<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt">From: <span class="gI"><span class="gD" style="color:#5b1094">Mike Morgan</span> <span class="go"><<a href="mailto:mwmbombay@gmail.com">mwmbombay@gmail.com</a>></span></span><span></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt">Subject: <span class="gI">LL-L "Sign language" 2011.04.28 (05) [EN-NL]</span></p>
<br><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="im">Ron/Reinhard writes:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex"><div>
<div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div>A deaf fellow passenger on a
bus I regularly ride talks to himself in American Sign Language. I was
surprised at first, but then it made sense. If you do talk to yourself
(which these days is not always obvious, what with all the new
"invisible" phone gadgets) you might as well do it in sign language if
you know it.<br>
</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div><br>It has been pointed out to me (by my wife who LOVES to point out my quirks) that I often talk to myself in sign language... <br><br>
I also use sign language as a mneumonic... I find it much easier to remember things "manually" (esp things like phone numbers)<br>
<br>Also according to my wife, I talk in my sleep in Russian, Nepali and
(an indeterminate) Sign language (her signing is confused, as she has
been exposed simultaneously to Japanese and American Sign languages
without having learned enough to tell which is which)<br>
<br>... and I often swear at myself (and others?) in Russian...<br></div></div><br>mwm || U C > || mike || мика || माईक || マイク || மாய்க் (aka Dr Michael W Morgan)<br><br>Senior Consultant<br>BA in Applied Sign Language Studies (BAASLS)<br>
Indira Gandhi National Open Univeristy<br>New Delhi, India<br><br>"<span>Too
often we honor swagger and bluster and wielders of force; too often we
excuse those who are willing to build their own lives on the shattered
dreams of others. ... [T]here is another kind of violence, slower but
just as deadly destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is
the violence of institutions; indifference and inaction and slow
decay." (Bobby Kennedy, 5 April 1968)<br><br>----------<br></span><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><br></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt">From: <span class="gI"><span class="gD" style="color:#790619">Sandy Fleming</span> <span class="go"><<a href="mailto:fleemin@live.co.uk">fleemin@live.co.uk</a>></span></span><span></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt">Subject: <span class="gI">LL-L "Sign language" 2011.04.28 (05) [EN-NL]</span></p><br><div class="im">> From: <span><span style="color:rgb(0, 104, 28)">Hellinckx Luc</span> <span><<a href="mailto:luc.hellinckx@gmail.com" target="_blank">luc.hellinckx@gmail.com</a>></span></span><span></span>
<p>> Subject: <span>LL-L "Sign language"</span></p>
</div><div class="im">> Regarding
another difference between England and Belgium: there's the English
trademark, called "democracy" on the one hand and a certain marriage
that has been getting a lot of attention lately on the other...not in
the least because the girl in case is not a "noblewoman". Maybe it's
just me, but...does that rhyme?</div><div class="im"><div><br></div><div>> Off the record: maybe does...in an effort to "prove" that "anybody" can access the Queen's mansion.</div><div><br></div>
</div>Of
course! I don't know if you get this sort of news in Belgium, but a
chap broke into Madge's bedroom in Buckingham Palace some years ago. She
chatted with him while waiting for "security" to wise up. Next day, the
nation was asking "Where was Philip?"<br><br>It's been a long time
since royalty here had any actual power. When a bill goes through from
Parliament the Queen has to approve it, but she's not allowed to refuse.
This was true of Queen Victoria and I imagine earlier monarchs as well.<br><br>As
for noblewoman, it's all historical fantasy. The reality is democracy
(unless the Prime Minister has other ideas, which they all do).<br><br>Sandy Fleming<br><a href="http://scotstext.org/" target="_blank">http://scotstext.org/</a><br><br>----------<br><br><p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt">
From: <span class="gI"><span class="gD" style="color:#790619">Sandy Fleming</span> <span class="go"><<a href="mailto:fleemin@live.co.uk">fleemin@live.co.uk</a>></span></span><span></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt">Subject: <span class="gI">LL-L "Sign language" 2011.04.28 (05) [EN-NL]</span></p>
<br><div class="im">
> From:
R. F. Hahn <<a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com" target="_blank">sassisch@yahoo.com</a>></div><div class="im">
> Subject:Sign language<br><br>> A deaf fellow passenger on a bus I
regularly ride talks to himself in American Sign Language. I was
surprised at first, but then it made sense. If you do talk to yourself
(which these days is not always obvious, what with all the new
"invisible" phone gadgets) you might as well do it in sign language if
you know it.<br>
<br></div>This comes to about the same thing in sign language as
in oral language. If you're proficient in both, they "feel" about the
same in many ways.<br><br>Sandy Fleming<br><a href="http://scotstext.org/" target="_blank">http://scotstext.org/</a><br><br>----------<br><br>From: Hannelore Hinz <hannehinz@de><br><div class="im">
Subject: LL-L "Sign language" 2011.04.28 (05) [EN-NL]<br>
<br>
Leiw' Lowlanners,<br>
<br>
dit 'Thema' lött ok mi nich kollt.<br>
<br>
Wossidlo/Teuchert: <b>dof </b>taub, nicht hörend.<br>
<br>
Will hapen, ick möt nienich dit Wuurd snacken. Dat Schicksal von
all' diss Minschen grippt ok mi an.<br>
<br>
Man gaud, dat gifft ein Verkloren un as Hauptsaak
verschiedenorrig Hülp:<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkkaoSMjujQ" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkkaoSMjujQ</a><br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.derwesten.de/wp/region/Gebaerdentelefon-fuer-Gehoerlose-ids900422.html" target="_blank">http://www.derwesten.de/wp/region/Gebaerdentelefon-fuer-Gehoerlose-ids900422.html</a><br>
<br>
* füer /fuer<br>
<br>
un den'n groten Meister:<br>
<br>
<a href="http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_van_Beethoven" target="_blank">http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_van_Beethoven</a><br>
<br>
s. unter Gehörleiden<br>
<br>
Un nu kiek ick mi in de Flimmerkist an (Hochtied) <b>Küss mich
Kate!</b><br>
<br>
Best' Gräuten.<br>
<br>
Hanne<br><br>----------<br><br>From: Hannelore Hinz <hannehinz@de><br>
<div class="im">
Subject: LL-L "Sign language" 2011.04.28 (05) [EN-NL]<br></div><br><font color="#ff0000">Hier bereits mit Korrektur der Web
Gebärdentelefon </font>(-id2900422.html, dat lütte <i>s </i>möt
rut) Hier klappt dat nu.<br>
<br></div>----------<br><br><p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt">From: <span class="gI"><span class="gD" style="color:#5b1094">Mike Morgan</span> <span class="go"><<a href="mailto:mwmbombay@gmail.com">mwmbombay@gmail.com</a>></span></span><span></span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;">Subject: <span class="gI">LL-L "Sign language" 2011.04.28 (04) [EN-NL]</span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><br><span class="gI"></span></p><div class="gmail_quote">
In response to the statement that <br><div class="im"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex"><div>
<div><div><div><div><div><div><div>De Vlaamse gebarentaal (VGT) is de moedertaal van ongeveer zesduizend
Vlamingen en wordt daarnaast ook gebruikt door 26.000 à 30.000 horende mensen.<br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div>Sandy asks: <br></div><div class="im"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex">
<div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div>How can it be that five times as many hearing people use VGT as there are native signers? What are they all using it for</div></div>
</div></div>
</div></div>
</div></div>
</blockquote></div></div><br>Well, maybe they have VERY good interpreter support for the deaf: 6 interpreters for every Deaf signer! <br clear="all"><br>Or,
to be serious, the numbers in the article when they talk about "horende
gebruikers" they MAY include every hearing person who has EVER taking a
beginning sign language course!<br>
<br>Numbers thrown around about sign languages rarely mean all that
much... unless it is explained exactly what they mean by "signers" and
how they arrived at the figures...<br><br>mwm || U C > || mike || мика || माईक || マイク || மாய்க் (aka Dr Michael W Morgan)<br>
<br>Senior Consultant<br>BA in Applied Sign Language Studies (BAASLS)<br>Indira Gandhi National Open Univeristy<br>New Delhi, India<br>
<p>"<span>Too
often we honor swagger and bluster and wielders of force; too often we
excuse those who are willing to build their own lives on the shattered
dreams of others. ... [T]here is another kind of violence, slower but
just as deadly destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is
the violence of institutions; indifference and inaction and slow
decay." (Bobby Kennedy, 5 April 1968)</span></p>----------<br><br><p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt">From: <a href="mailto:mike.keach@gmail.com">mike.keach@gmail.com</a><span></span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;">Subject: LL-L re: sign language</p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><br>
</p>Two of the "requirements" set by my parents before the graduation exercises for the children were:<br>
1) At least 1 foreign language, and<br>
2) Sign language.<br>
<br>
Their reasoning was that your heimsprache is not as precious as you may
think, and you MUST be able to communicate with at least ONE group of
people that are no different then you other than that they can't speak
English or can't hear.<br>
<br>
I can tell all of you that their demands have paid off over the years.
I'm "good" in several languages (the most being in the Germanic vein)
but am also able to irritate natives in Greece, Italy, France, Russia
and the Spanish hinterlands, my Panamanian upsetting Castillians and
Argentinians, alike: a badge I wear with honor. LOL.<br>
<br>
Anyway, ASL is the Lingua Franca here in the US but, I haven't any idea
what's happening across "The Pond" in terms of sign-language.<br>
<br>
Alles Beste von Tampadorf,<br>
~Mike<br>
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