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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"> </font></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt">From: <span class="gI"><span class="gD" style="color:#5b1094">Sandy Fleming</span> <span class="go"><a href="mailto:fleemin@live.co.uk">fleemin@live.co.uk</a></span></span></p>
Subject: <span class="gI">LL-L "Grammar" 2011.05.08 (03) [EN]</span><br><br><p>> From: <span><span style="color:rgb(91, 16, 148)">Pat Barrett</span> <span><a href="mailto:pbarrett@cox.net" target="_blank">pbarrett@cox.net</a></span></span></p>
> Subject: <span>LL-L "Grammar" 2011.05.08 (01) [EN-NDS]</span><br><br><div><font size="2">> I see Trudgill's discussion of this on p. 94 in my
copy. I don't see the identifications Berkshire or Norwich, so is it from your
knowledge of these places in Britain that you are able to pinpoint them or are
you looking at another page? I am so anxious to find the passage I read years
ago that stated that this is the origin of "I sez".</font></div><font style="font-size:10pt" size="2"><br>My copy only goes up to page 68 :)<br><br>This is "Dialects" by Peter Trudgill, Routledge 1994, ISBN 0 415-09038-5.<br>
<br>Chapter 9 "Present-Tense Verbs".<br><br>The
declension without the -s endings is stated to be East Anglian and an
accompanying example is stated to be in the Norwich dialect.<br><br>The declension with all -s endings is stated to be Berkshire.<br><br>Sandy Fleming<br><a href="http://scotstext.org/" target="_blank">http://scotstext.org/</a><br>
</font><div><span><br>----------<br><br></span><p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt">From: "Stellingwerfs Eigen" <<a href="mailto:info@stellingwerfs-eigen.nl">info@stellingwerfs-eigen.nl</a>></p>
Subject: LL-L "Grammar"<br><span class="gI"><br></span><div>Beste Henry,<br>Ergens halverwege maart hadden we het op dit forum over
bakken, bakde, bakte, baket, e.d. Ergens in die discussie schreef ik: "O, o,
o... Dat is dan niet zo best steld in et Duuts-Neddersassies." enz.<br>In een
reactie daarop met als onderwerp schreef jij op 14-3: "If that be the case,
then my home dialect (West Twente) would be in severe trouble (which it
isn't)."</div>
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<div>Zo'n twee weken geleden kwam een - min of meer wetenschappelijk - nieuw
woordenboek in het Twents uit, van Goaitsen van der Vliet uit Enschede. Volgens
Van der Vliet: "... want het Twents holt in een veel hoger tempo achteruit dan
het Fries..." enz. <br>Persoonlijk kom ik heel veel (maandelijks) in Twente en
ben het volmondig met de woordenboekenmaker (maar ook anderen) eens.</div>
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Q: Vanwaar jouw stelling of aanname dat jouw home dialect (West Twente)
niet in severe trouble is?<br>Mit een vrundelike groet uut Stellingwarf,<br>Piet
Bult<br><span class="gI"><br></span></div>
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