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<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><font size="2"> </font></p><font size="2">From: </font><span class="gI"><span class="gD" style="color:#790619"><a href="mailto:heatherrendall@tiscali.co.uk">heatherrendall@tiscali.co.uk</a></span> <span class="go"><a href="mailto:heatherrendall@tiscali.co.uk">heatherrendall@tiscali.co.uk</a></span></span><font size="2"><br>
Subject: <span><span></span></span></font><span class="gI">LL-L "Etymology" 2011.05.19 (05) [NDS]</span><font size="2"><br><br></font>From Heather Rendall <a href="mailto:heatherrendall@tiscali.co.uk">heatherrendall@tiscali.co.uk</a><br>
<br>
Marcus wrote<br>
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<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 102);">Dat is intressant, "bet dat de Heben sackt". Dat de Heven woll sacken</span><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 102);"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 102);">
kunn un dat dat dat Enn von de Welt wesen schull, dat kenn ik ans man</span><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 102);"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 102);">
bloot ut de Asterix-Comics, dor sünd se dor ook vör bang, dat jem de</span><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 102);"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 102);">
Heven op 'n Kopp fallt.</span><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 102);"></div>
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</div>It was one of the Roman historians (I forget which one) talking about<br>
the Celts who stated that what they feared most was that the sky might<br>
fall on their heads.<br>
<br>
It is a fascinating statement the more you think about it; what had<br>
happened within human /celtic memory to believe that the sky could fall<br>
in! Just like those few lines in the Muspilli<br>
<br>
(not Platt I know but forgive me)<br>
<br>
so inprinnant die perga poum ni kistenit<br>
enihc in erdu aha artruknent<br>
muor varsuuilhit sih suilizot lougiu der himil<br>
mane vallit prinnit mittilagart<br>
<br>
Which is very similar in feeling to some lines in a early Welsh poem<br>
Cad Goddeu ( The battle of the trees )<br>
<br>
There shall be a black darkness<br>
There shall be a shaking of the mountain<br>
There shall be a purifying furnace<br>
There shall be first a great wave (Robert Graves translation)<br>
<br>
I suppose it is only to be expected that human history would have<br>
witnessed some kind of cataclysm that appeared like the 'end of the<br>
world'; any ideas what?<br>
<br>
Heather<br>
<br>
Worcester UK<br>
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From: Hannelore Hinz <<a href="mailto:hannehinz@t-online.de" target="_blank">hannehinz@t-online.de</a><br></div>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2011.05.19 (05) [NDS]<br><div class="im">
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From: Marcus Buck <a href="mailto:list@marcusbuck.org" target="_blank"><list@marcusbuck.org></a><br>
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<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 102);">Dat is intressant, "bet dat de Heben sackt". Dat de Heven woll
sacken kunn un dat dat dat Enn von de Welt wesen schull, dat kenn ik
ans man bloot ut de Asterix-Comics, dor sünd se dor ook vör bang,
dat jem de Heven op 'n Kopp fallt.</span><br></div>
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Dat is appeldwalschen/appeldwatschen (albern, töricht) Kram.<br>
<br>
<b>Häben </b>Belege 1. aus dem Volksmund: 'lev wohl, bett dat de
Heben sackt' (d.h. solange die Erde besteht; Abschiedsgruß* <b>1732</b>
siehe <b>Nd.Kbl. Korrespondenzblatt des Vereins für niederdeutsche
Sprachforschung. 1876 ff. ndl. niederländisch.<br>
<br>
* </b>künn je sien, de frame? Minsch wier krank un ahnte all,
wat up em taukümmt. Häben sackte (ihm entgegen). Villicht güng de
kranke Minsch in de Wohrheit (er starb). <br>
<br>
Mit ein fründlich Gräuten.<br>
<br>
Hanne<br>
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