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R. F. Hahn <<a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com" target="_blank">sassisch@yahoo.com</a>></p>
Subject: Etymology<br><br>Dear Lowlanders,<br><br>The origin of the etymon represented by English "carp" is a bit of a mystery, and I wonder if together we can shed some more light on it.<br><br>According to the <i>Herkunftsduden</i>, Old German has <i>karpho</i>, and the word is supposed to have been derived from an unknown language once used along River Danube and in the Alps where wild carps used to be plentiful.<br>
<br>English "carp" is supposed to have been borrowed from French or rather Norman <i>carpe</i>, and this word is supposed to go back to a Germanic, ultimately an East Germanic language, "possibly Gothic <span class="foreign">*<i>karpa</i>"</span> (which has not been verified).<br>
<br>What languages used to be spoken in the region specified? Yes, Eastern Gothic at some point, and also Celtic varieties if I am not mistaken.<br><br>Please note that among languages that have versions of this word there is evidence of consonantal metathesis: *<i>karp</i> ~ *<i>krap</i>, and there is the possibility of *<i>karab</i> or *<i>karap</i>, if not *<i>korob</i> or *<i>korop</i> or any other configuration of these:<br>
<br>English: carp<br>Low Saxon: Karp, Karpen<br>Dutch: karper<br>Afrikaans: karp<br>Limburgish: karper, kerp<br>Danish: karpe<br>Norwegian: karpe<br>Swedish: karp<br>German: Karpfen<br>Yiddish: karp (קאַרפּ)<br>Lower Sorbian: karpa<br>
Upper Sorbian: karp<br>Czech: kapr<br>Slovak: kapor<br>Kashubian: karp<br>Polish: karp<br>Ukrainian: korop (<span id="result_box" class="short_text" lang="uk"><span title="Click for alternate translations" class="hps">короп</span></span>)<br>
Belarusian: karp (<span id="result_box" class="short_text" lang="ru"><span title="Click for alternate translations" class="hps">карп)</span></span><br>Russian: karp (<span id="result_box" class="short_text" lang="ru"><span title="Click for alternate translations" class="hps">карп)</span></span><br>
Slovenian: krap<br>Macedonian: <span id="result_box" class="short_text" lang="mk"><span title="Click for alternate translations" class="hps">krap (крап</span></span>)<br>Latvian: karpa<br>Lithuanian: karpis<br>Greek: kyprínos (<span id="result_box" class="short_text" lang="el"><span title="Click for alternate translations" class="hps">κυπρίνος</span></span>)<br>
Picard: càrpe<br>French: carpe<br>Catalan: carpa<br>Spanish: carpa<br>
Galician: carpa<br>
Portuguese: carpa<br>Breton: karpenn<br>Welsh: carp<br>Scottish Gaelic: carbh<br>Irish: <span id="result_box" class="short_text" lang="ga"><span title="Click for alternate translations" class="hps">carbán</span></span><br>
Estonian: <span id="result_box" class="short_text" lang="et"><span title="Click for alternate translations" class="hps">karpkala ("karp fish")</span></span><br>Finnish: karppi<br>Romanian: crap<br>
Albanian: krap<br>Chuvash: karp (<span id="result_box" class="short_text" lang="ru"><span title="Click for alternate translations" class="hps">карп)</span></span><br>Azerbaijani: karp<br>Georgian: kobre (<font size="2"><span class="hps">კობრი</span></font>)<br>
Persian: kapūr (<span id="result_box" class="short_text" lang="fa"><span title="Click for alternate translations" class="hps">کپور</span></span>)<br>
Maltese: <span id="result_box" class="short_text" lang="mt"><span title="Click for alternate translations" class="hps">karpjun</span></span><span id="result_box" class="short_text" lang="et"><span title="Click for alternate translations" class="hps"></span></span><br>
Hebrew: karpiyyōn (קַרְפִּיּוֹן)<br><br>Any information, ideas, thoughts?<br><br>Regards,<br>Reinhard/Ron<br>Seattle, USA<br><br><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center" align="center">
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