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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"> </font></p><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="gI"><span class="gD" style="color:#00681c">Roger Thijs, Euro-Support, Inc.</span> <span class="go"><a href="mailto:roger.thijs@euro-support.be">roger.thijs@euro-support.be</a></span></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
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Subject: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="gI">LL-L Etymology</span><br>
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<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">There has been quite some obstructive activity today around the transport
of nuclear waste from Borsele in the Netherlands to La Hague in France.</div><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
</span><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">E.g. cf. <a title="http://www.standaard.be/artikel/detail.aspx?artikelid=DMF20110607_014" href="http://www.standaard.be/artikel/detail.aspx?artikelid=DMF20110607_014" target="_blank">http://www.standaard.be/artikel/detail.aspx?artikelid=DMF20110607_014</a></div>
<div><font face="Times New Roman">...Maandag werd voor het eerst in zes jaar
weer kernafval van de kerncentrale in Borssele afgevoerd. Vrachtwagens brachten
drie containers met splijtstofelementen naar het centrale
kernafvalverwerkingsbedrijf Covra in Vlissingen, vlakbij de kerncentrale. De
bedoeling is dat het daarvandaan per trein naar La Hague in Normandië wordt
gebracht...</font></div>
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<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">La Hague is in French Normandy.</div><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
</span><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">It is controversial whether the name is <strong><u>Saxon or
Viking</u></strong>, cf. <a title="http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Hague" href="http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Hague" target="_blank">http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Hague</a></div><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
</span><div>.. <font face="Times New Roman">Le monument remarquable préhistorique du
</font><a title="Hague-Dick" href="http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hague-Dick" target="_blank"><font face="Times New Roman">Hague-Dick</font></a><font face="Times New Roman"> (1000
av. J.-C.) qui barre la Hague d'ouest en est donnerait l'étymologie du mot
<i>Hague</i> (bien attesté ailleurs en Normandie, seul ou dans des composés
comme <i>Etauhague</i> "enclos pour les chevaux" ). En effet, en indo-européen
<i>*khag-</i> signifie "enclos", d'où celtique <i>*kagion</i> "rempart, haie"
gallois <i>cae</i>, breton <i>kae</i> et gaulois <i>caio-</i> qui a donné les
mots "quai" (d'origine normande) et "chai" (d'origine poitevine), en germanique
commun <i>*hag-</i> d'où en français "haye" > haie, mais avant en </font><a title="Vieux norrois" href="http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vieux_norrois" target="_blank"><font face="Times New Roman">vieux norrois</font></a><font face="Times New Roman">
<i>hagi</i>, en </font><a title="Francique (langue morte)" href="http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francique_%28langue_morte%29" target="_blank"><font face="Times New Roman">francique</font></a><font face="Times New Roman">
<i>haga</i> ou <i>hagja</i> (haie ou hauteur boisée), en néerlandais
<i>haag</i>, comme pour la ville de </font><a title="La Haye" href="http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Haye" target="_blank"><font face="Times New Roman">La
Haye</font></a><font face="Times New Roman">, appelée en anglais <i>The
Hague</i>. <strong><u>Le nom peut donc être attribué tant aux
</u></strong></font><a title="Viking" href="http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viking" target="_blank"><font face="Times New Roman"><strong>Vikings</strong></font></a><font face="Times New Roman"><strong><u> qu'aux </u></strong></font><a title="Saxons" href="http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saxons" target="_blank"><font face="Times New Roman"><strong>Saxons</strong></font></a><font face="Times New Roman">. Il est maintenant prouvé que le Hague-Dick servait à
protéger les habitants de la pointe contre les attaques venant du continent. Le
Hague-Dick(e) sépare la « pointe » du reste de la Hague. Il a été réutilisé à
diverses époques à titre de défense, jusqu'aux Vikings. Ensuite sa ligne de
crête a servi de chemin. Le meilleur endroit pour en voir les restes est sur la
route de Digulleville à Beaumont....</font></div>
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<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Who has a good clue?</div><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
</span><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Regards,</div><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
</span><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Roger<br><br>----------<br><br><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">From: R. F. Hahn <</span><a style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" href="http://mc/compose?to=sassisch@yahoo.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">sassisch@yahoo.com</a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">></span><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
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</span><font style="font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" size="2">Subject: Etymology<br><br>Hi, Roger!<br><br>Right off, I can see that this is a hard one, since the assumed word in question -- *<i>hāg ~ *hag</i> 'hawthorn', 'plant growth used as fencing', 'fenced-in parcel of land' (related to Modern English <i>haw</i>) -- exists in both languages: Old Saxon <i>hago</i>, Old Norse <i>hagi</i>. (The Normans that invaded France and later Britain were of Viking origin.) Besides speakers of both languages populated Northern France at various times. Furthermore, Old Low Frankish has the extended<i> noun hagan </i>''(thicket of) hawthorn', which has cognates in practically all Germanic languages, and parts of Northern France used to be Dutch-speaking. <br>
<br>(Besides that, Hagan > Hagen > Haan > Hahn is the root of my surname.) <br><br>Needless to say that this is also featured in The Hague, the name of The Netherlands' capital.<br><br>At first thought I would suggest people take a closer look at the exact timing in the history of the La Hague.<br>
<br>How close is La Hague to the coast? I understand that early Saxon settlements in what is now Northern France (many of which predate Saxon settlement in Britain) tended to be predominantly coastal. Is this true?<br><br>
For phonological reasons, I guess that Old Norse <i>hagi </i>is the root of French <i>haye</i> 'thicket fence', and I have a hunch that <i>hague</i> is more likely to come from <i>hago</i>.<br><br>Still guessing ...<br>
<br>Reinhard/Ron<br>Seattle, USA<br><br></font></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" align="center">
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