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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"> </font></p>From: <span class="gI"><span class="gD" style="color:#c88900">Roger Thijs, Euro-Support, Inc.</span> <span class="go"><a href="mailto:roger.thijs@euro-support.be">roger.thijs@euro-support.be</a></span></span><br>
Subject: <span class="gI">LL-L "Etymology" 2011.06.07 (02) [DE-EN-FR-NL]</span><br><br><div><font size="2"><div class="im"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><font size="3">>
From: R. F. Hahn <</font></span><a style="color:rgb(0,0,0)" href="http://mc/compose?to=sassisch@yahoo.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><font size="3">sassisch@yahoo.com</font></a><font size="3"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">></span><br style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">
<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"></span></font></div><font style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:10pt" size="2">> Subject:
Etymology<br>> .... How close is La Hague to the coast? I understand that
early Saxon settlements in what is now Northern France (many of which predate
Saxon settlement in Britain) tended to be predominantly coastal. Is this
true?</font></font></div>
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<div><font size="2">It is on the coast but much more South than the
Flemish area in France. Here the coastal settlements were not supported by
permanent Low-Franconian backing in the inland. Several tourist maps can be
downloaded from:</font></div>
<div><font size="2"><a href="http://www.lahague-tourisme.com/documentations,1,1,20.php" target="_blank">http://www.lahague-tourisme.com/documentations,1,1,20.php</a></font></div>
<div><font size="2">La Hague is quite close to the channel island
Alderney.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2">A map of former Anglo-Saxon settlements, based on
archeological findings can be found on URL:</font></div>
<div><font size="2"><a href="http://histoiredelamanche.free.fr/saxon.html" target="_blank">http://histoiredelamanche.free.fr/saxon.html</a></font></div>
<div><font size="2">The area is just East of La Hague.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2">There has been a book published (in French) on
Saxon settlements in Normandy, but it is now out of print:</font></div>
<div><font size="2"><a href="http://www.unicaen.fr/puc/spip.php?article548" target="_blank">http://www.unicaen.fr/puc/spip.php?article548</a></font></div>
<div><font size="2">Louis Guinet, Contribution à l'étude des
Etablissements saxons en Normandie.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2">Focus on the Scandinavian aspect can be found in an
article in English at url:</font></div>
<div><font size="2"><a href="http://books.google.be/books?id=dGVp7FDTvmwC&pg=PA50&lpg=PA50&dq=saxons+en+normandie&source=bl&ots=JV5OogJX9m&sig=P_R2WmWbTCXRNrr7AnrVYUSiduU&hl=nl&ei=BE7vTfq5ItGeOv6jqN0B&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=6&ved=0CEsQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=saxons%20en%20normandie&f=false" target="_blank">http://books.google.be/books?id=dGVp7FDTvmwC&pg=PA50&lpg=PA50&dq=saxons+en+normandie&source=bl&ots=JV5OogJX9m&sig=P_R2WmWbTCXRNrr7AnrVYUSiduU&hl=nl&ei=BE7vTfq5ItGeOv6jqN0B&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=6&ved=0CEsQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=saxons%20en%20normandie&f=false</a></font></div>
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<div><font size="2">An historical keynote (in French) can be found
at:</font></div>
<div><font size="2"><a href="http://www.musee-de-normandie.caen.fr/collections/SaxonsVikings.asp" target="_blank">http://www.musee-de-normandie.caen.fr/collections/SaxonsVikings.asp</a></font></div>
<div><font size="2">Saxon incursions started in the 4th century, Norman
(permanent) incursions in this area mainly in the 9th century.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2">I'm puzzled by the word "dyke" in namegiving. Isn't
that not more linked to Saxon practices of land settlement?</font></div>
<div><font size="2">cf. <a href="http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hague-Dick" target="_blank">http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hague-Dick</a></font></div>
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<div>
<div><font size="2">A list of germanic roots left in local toponomy, as
well as in French, can be found at:</font></div>
<div><font size="2"><a href="http://laclefdesrunes.centerblog.net/4726756-Racines-norroises-et-saxonnes-de-Normandie-" target="_blank">http://laclefdesrunes.centerblog.net/4726756-Racines-norroises-et-saxonnes-de-Normandie-</a></font></div>
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<div><font size="2">Further it is interesting to notice that this
area has its own regional verson of French, cf. map:</font></div>
<div><font size="2"><a href="http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fichier:Langues_de_la_France.svg" target="_blank">http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fichier:Langues_de_la_France.svg</a></font></div>
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<div><font size="2">PS. and here is some info about the nuclear
processing plant, where the controversy is about these days:</font></div>
<div><font size="2"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COGEMA_La_Hague_site" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COGEMA_La_Hague_site</a></font></div>
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<div><font size="2">Regards,</font></div>
<div><font size="2">Roger</font></div><font style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0, 0, 0)" size="2"></font><div><br>----------<br><br><big>From: Hannelore Hinz <a href="mailto:hannehinz@t-online.de" target="_blank"><hannehinz@t-online.de></a><br>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2011.06.07 (02) [DE-EN-FR-NL]<br>
<br>
Leiw' Lowlanners.<br>
<br>
Ostseebad Dier<b>hagen,</b>1311 ierstmals näumt, "Deerhagen" odder
"Thierhagen" (lött 'Tierhaltung' vermauden);<br>
Ostseebad Bolten<b>hagen</b>; Rostock-Reuters<b>hagen</b>, näumt
nah nd. Schriewer Fritz Reuter; Staven<b>hagen, </b>1230 ierst as
Stoven<b>hage </b><i>(urkundl.) </i>näumt.<br>
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Dat heit, nich all de Urten mit ... <b>hagen </b>sünd an de
Waterkant tau finn'n.<br>
<br>
<b>Hagen </b>m. 1. lebende Hecke, Einfriedigung. 2.
eingefriedigtes Stück Land: <i>Hans güng an'n Hagen</i>;<br>
FN: Flurnamen: <i>Papenhagen; Wulfshagen, Im Hagenfelde; </i>übertr.
auf abgelegene Straßen und Winkel in den Zss. <i>Katt-, Papen-,
Seehagen</i>; weitere Zss.: <i>Hunger-, Smachthagen. </i>3.
Hagendorf, Waldrodungsdorf; sein Ackerland zieht sich in Streifen
von den Gehöften bis zur Gemarkungsgrenze; seine Hufen,
fachsprachlich Hagenhufen genannt; 'Hermen van Zule . . . het
vorcoft den Smagthagen unde den Clochagen deme closter tu
Ribbenitz'. <br>
Zss. außer den zahlreichen Ortsnamen auf -<i>hagen </i>die
erfundenen: <i>Allmanns-, Feddermanns-, Kuhschit-, Kreihen-,
Lumpen-, Minschen-, Oewer-, Tappenhagen. <br>
</i>Mnd. <i>hagen </i>m<br>
Lit.: Wossidlo/Teuchert<br>
<br>
<b>Hag: </b>Die <i>germ. </i>Wortgruppe <i>mhd. </i>hac
"Dorngesträuch, Gebüsch: Umzäuhnung, Gehege; [umfriedeter] Wald;
[umfriedeter] Ort", <i>ahd. </i>hag "Einhegung; Stadt", daneben
<i>asächs. </i>hago "Weideplatz", <i>engl. </i>haw "Gehege";
Hof", <i>schwed. </i>hage "Gehege; Weide; Wäldchen, Hain" geht
mit verwandten Wörtern im Italischen und Keltischen, vgl. z.B. <i>kymr.
</i>cae "Gehege", <i>mbret. </i>kae "Dornenhecke, Zaun", <i>gall.
</i>caio-<br>
"Umwallung" (vgl. <i>Kai), auf *</i>kagh- "Flechtwerk, Zaun
(verbal "mit einem Zaun umgeben") zurück. Andere
Sustantivbildungen zu derselben Wurzel sind Hain, Hecke<br>
und Heck. Eine Kollektivbildung zu 'Hag' ist Gehege. Eine
Verbalableitung von'Hag' ist<br>
hegen, ursprünglich "mit einem 'Hag' umgeben".<br>
Auch in der <i>dt. </i>Namensgebung spielt die Sippe von 'Hag'
eine bedeutende Rolle, beachte den Personennamen und Ortsnamen
Hagen und die zahlreichen Ortsnamen auf ...hag, ...hagen.<br>
Lit.: DUDEN 7<br>
<br>
Mit best' Gräuten.<br>
<br>
Hanne</big><font style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0, 0, 0)" size="2"><br><br></font></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center" align="center">
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