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<p>From: <span class="gI"><span class="gD" style="color:#c88900"><a href="mailto:list@marcusbuck.org">list@marcusbuck.org</a></span></span><br>Subject: <span class="gI">LL-L "Culture" 2011.06.19 (01) [EN]</span></p>

From: Paul Finlow-Bates <a href="mailto:wolf_thunder51@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">wolf_thunder51@yahoo.co.uk</a><br>
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Subject: LL-L "Culture" 2011.06.18 (01) [EN-NL]<br>
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And this is what passes for "debate" in that quarter of politics: If you<br>
suggest that crowded countries like England or Holland should not be<br>
expected to take large numbers of people; if you suggest that Islamic or<br>
other communities should not be exempt from national laws or be free to<br>
impose their own, then obviously what you really want is to re-open Belsen<br>
and fire up the ovens.<br>
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"Crowdedness" is not really a good argument in that discussion. The 
German Reich originally had 62 million inhabitants on 540,000 km². 
Hitler thought that that was too crowded and the Germans needed new 
"Lebensraum" in the east. He lost his war for Lebensraum, Stalin took 
away much of the eastern territories and the Germans moved westwards. In
 the Bundesrepublik we now have 82 million people on 357,000 km². And 
currently one of the biggest fears of the Germans is that Germany 
becomes underpopulated due to low birth rates.<br>
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Singapur is ethnically diverse and has a population density of 6558 per km² and is still a stable country.<br>
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"Crowdedness" is subjective and mostly just a strawman argument for other interests.<br>
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Marcus Buck<p><span></span></p>
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