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</font></div><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">From: Pat Barrett <a href="mailto:pbarrett@cox.net">pbarrett@cox.net</a></font><div><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2011.07.05 (02) [AF-EN]</font></div>
<div><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></font></div><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">We had a Fourth of July party last night and a friend from the Netherlands came over and I asked him about baie and it was unfamiliar to him. He still gets together with Dutch-speaking people in a little club here in the Valley (Phoenix, AZ, USA) so I'm guessing if it's used now it might not have been a few decades ago. </font><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
</font><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Pat Barrett <a href="mailto:pbarrett@cox.net">pbarrett@cox.net</a></font><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></font><div><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><a href="http://ideas.lang-learn.us/barrett.php">http://ideas.lang-learn.us/barrett.php</a></font><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
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</font><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">From: "dealangeam" <<a href="mailto:atdelange@iburst.co.za">atdelange@iburst.co.za</a>></font><div><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Subject: LL-L "Etymology" [AF-EN]</font></div>
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</font><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Now I get “lekker”. Lowlanders beginning to use this word.</font><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></font><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></font><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I have never been able to uncover the etymology of this word. But, like “baie”, it is used by all South Africans, whatever their language (dozens of them). It means in English a lot of things. The synonyms of “nice”, “fun”, “delicious” and “delight” will give you an indication. A German friend of mine, after several visit to South Africa, suggested “lecker”</font><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
</font><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></font><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Mooi loop</font></div><div><font color="#660000"><strong><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">[At de Lange]</font></strong></font><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
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</font><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">From: "Stellingwerfs Eigen" <<a href="mailto:info@stellingwerfs-eigen.nl">info@stellingwerfs-eigen.nl</a>></font><div><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Subject: LL-L "Etymologie"</font><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
</font></div></div><div><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></font><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Beste Theo,</font><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></font><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Naar mijn bescheiden mening zet je ons op het verkeerde been met 'beu' of 'bo' in de richting zoekend naar 'baie'. Grimm kent beu en bo net als het Etymologisch Woordenboek van het Nederlands voor als '(het) zat zijn'. Dat klinkt nog door in: Geen boe of bah meer kunnen zeggen (zoveel gegeten). Ook het MNW gebruikt boi en beu in die zelfde betekenis.</font><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
</font><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Van der Sys zegt dat dit beu mogelijk van oorsprong het tussenwerpsel 'ba' is.</font><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></font><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Mit een vrundelike groet uut Stellingwarf,</font><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
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</font><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">From: Joachim <<a href="mailto:Osnabryg%2BLowlands@googlemail.com">Osnabryg+Lowlands@googlemail.com</a>></font><div><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2011.07.05 (03) [NL]</font><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
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</font><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> mijn oorspronkelijke vraag na de uitspraak van Fries "bannich" - [bɔŋəx, bɔndəx, bɔ:nəx], maar Standaard-NL 'bandig', Stell. 'baandig' - hadden Henno Brandsma en Piet Bult allang beantwoord, bedankt.</font><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
</font><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></font><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> Wat de de betekenis van het woord betreft, is zij voor het Fries en NL evenzo uit de discussie gebleken. Maar het komt nog niet overeen met de betekenis van het </font><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
</font><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></font><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> Nederduits bijwoord "bannig" </font><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></font><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> NL uitermate ~ buitengewoon ~ tamelijk ~ bijster, vgl. AF baie. </font><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
</font><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></font><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> Nu heb ik wellicht ook daarvoor een oplossing gevonden - in het WFT (Wurdboek fan de Fryske taal / Woorenboek der Friese taal) - <a href="http://liten.be//gG6uf">http://liten.be//gG6uf</a> :</font><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
</font><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></font><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">útbannich: Buitengewoon, overdreven, uitbundig.</font><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></font><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> Accent: út'bannich - Datering: 1900</font><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
</font><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></font><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> Tenminste het Nederduits 'bannig' zou erop kunnen teruggaan - dat het onbeklemtoond "uut" erbij verdwenen is, moet niet tegen deze afkomst spreken. Eerder de late datering (1900) van de gebruik in het Fries.</font><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
</font><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></font><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> Het betekenis en de syntactisch-semantische functie van AF baie lijkt tenminste erop. De gelijkaardige klank kan niettemin toevallig zijn.</font><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
</font><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></font><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> Met echt-westfœlsken »Goudgaun!«</font><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></font><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">joachim</font><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
</font><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Kreimer-de Fries, Osnabrügge => Berlin-Pankow</font><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></font></div><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></font><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
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