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</div><font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" size="2">From: </font>Ingmar Roerdinkholder <<a href="mailto:roerd096@PLANET.NL">roerd096@PLANET.NL</a>><div><font size="2">
Subject: <span class="gI"></span></font>LL-L "Language varieties" 2011.06.23 (05) [EN]</div><font size="2"><br></font>Dear Lowlanders,<br>
<br>
speaking of Dutch in Guyana, here's a sample of Dutch language how it's
spoken in the former Dutch Guyana, now the independent republic of
Surinam. Unless a heavy accent, those "Bush Negroes" as they call
themselves speak Dutch very fluently.<br>
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<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kQP_iecwMA&feature=related" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kQP_iecwMA&feature=related</a><br>
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Btw you'll be probably surprised that this is America, not Africa!<br>
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Yours,<br>
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Ingmar Roerdinkholder<br>
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<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">From: R. F. Hahn <</span><a style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);" href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com">sassisch@yahoo.com</a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">></span><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
Subject: Language varieties</span><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
<br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
Dear Lowlanders,</span><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
<br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
Some of you might be interested in this video about the supposedly last native speaker of Berbice Creole Dutch in Guyana:</span><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
<br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
</span><a style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PH1TvEE8Vw" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PH1TvEE8Vw</a><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
<br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
The video is pretty well presented and is interesting to me. What a privilege to meet that 103-year-old lady!</span><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
<br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
Wouldn't it be great if we could still listen to Mohawk Dutch, Albany
Dutch, and Jersey Dutch? Albany Dutch (of Albany, New York) might still
have a few elderly speakers. It must be distinguished from Mohawk Dutch,
once spoken in pretty much the same location.</span><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
<br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
Skepi, another Dutch-based creole of Guyana, has been extinct since
1989. "Negerhollands" appears to have become extinct in 1987. Are there
any recordings of them?</span><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
<br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
When I trekked around the island of Java in 1982 (on foot and via public
transport), locals told me that speakers of Javindo, a Dutch-Javanese
creole, could still be found in places, though I found none of them.
Similarly, I did not find speakers of Petjo, a Dutch-Indonesian (i.e.
Dutch-Malay) creole, though I am told that there are still some in the
Netherlands and possibly Western Australia. In the first couple of years
of Lowlands-L (1995-1996) we had a Petjo-speaking member in the
Netherlands. Unfortunately, he left us before we could get any
significant information about his home language out of him. However, in
Indonesia I did find a few older Indonesians (mostly Sundanese and
Javanese) who remembered their locally colored Dutch. If this happened
in public, they would whisper while talking in Dutch.</span><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
<br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
Rumor has it that there are a few remaining speakers of so-called
"Ceylon Dutch" in Sri Lanka and possibly Australia, in the so-called
"Burgher" community of Sri Lanka. These are predominantly Christian Sri
Lankans with more or less Dutch ancestry. I have known a few Burghers in
Australia and the USA, but never any that spoke the old language.</span><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
<br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
Regards,</span><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
Reinhard/Ron</span><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
Seattle, USA</span><br></div><font size="2">
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