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</div>From: <span class="gI"><span class="gD" style="color:#5b1094">Isaac M. Davis</span> <span class="go"><a href="mailto:isaacmacdonalddavis@gmail.com">isaacmacdonalddavis@gmail.com</a></span></span><br>
Subject: <span class="gI">LL-L "Language politics" 2011.07.09 (03) [EN]</span><br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="im">Paul Finlow-Bates wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div><div><div><div>
<div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div>I gather Finnish Swedes have a very distinctive accent and are
often treated as rather different by people in Sweden too. Seems they
can't win!</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div><snip> </div><div class="im"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div>I've
only heard Quebecois French once, in a conversation with a Frenchman
and a Belgian. I couldn't understand a word, it hardly sounded like
French to me, though neither European seemed to have any problems.</div>
</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>That's
true of Francophone Canadians as well. As you'd expect, the dialect is
lexically and phonologically conservative in some ways, and lexically
and phonologically innovative in others (probably more conservative than
innovative, on the whole, relative to higher-prestige varieties, but I
wouldn't testify to that in court, as I'm not actually so familiar with
European French). French people who run into Québeckers in Europe tend
to assume that they're Belgian, as they do share some archaisms, both
lexical and phonological, but anyone who's familiar with Belgian French
or Québec French or both can certainly tell the difference.</div><div class="im">
<div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>
<div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div>Most Anglophone Canadians
I've spoken to on the matter seem to have learned enough French to pass
the exams, then more or less immediately forgotten it.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>That's
a pretty fair assessment. I passed Grade 9 French (when I was 14), and
then, out of resentment at being forced to learn the language, I never
took it formally again until recently, when I took some continuing
education courses through one of the English-language universities here
in Montréal. I picked it up by other means, mind you, and have used it
more or less every day for the past four years, but there is a definite
antipathy towards French by Anglophone Canadians, compulsory French
classes haven't helped much, and I can't claim to have been immune
myself.</div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Isaac M. Davis</div><div><br></div></div><font color="#888888">-- <br><br>"As I would not be a slave, so I would not be a master."<br>—Abraham Lincoln</font><br><div style="text-align:center">
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