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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"> </font></p>From: "Steven Hanson" <<a href="mailto:ammurit@gmail.com">ammurit@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: LL-L "Idiomatica" 2009.08.20 (02) [EN]<br>
<br><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span>At this point, I must bow out. All this lovey dovey talk is becoming a bit too philosophical for my tastes. ;-)</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt; margin-left: 40px; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
<span>From: <span>Jacqueline Bungenberg de Jong</span><span> </span><span><a href="mailto:Dutchmatters@comcast.net" target="_blank">Dutchmatters@comcast.net</a></span><br>Subject: <span>LL-L "Idiomatica" 2009.08.20 (01) [EN]</span></span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Hello Marlou, Ron, Steven, Igmar and Henry</span></p><p style="margin-left: 40px; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);" class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span></p><p style="margin-left: 40px; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Talking
about the different ways people use to say they ‘love’ each other
brings me back to the old question: Do we make our language or does our
language make us.</span></p><p style="margin-left: 40px; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">‘Love’
can be described as anything from the exalted to the profane. It even
can be distorted hate (just think how women (maybe men too) who have
been tormented by their torturers can say “But I still love him”) ‘To
love’ can have many meanings (agape, eros, familiality etc. etc). If the
Dutch say “ ik houd van jou”, maybe they see their loved ones more like
a cherished object. After all one of the character traits we are being
accused of is that we as a nation are materialistic! Don’t forget that
we do not have the differentiation between ‘like’ and ‘love’. </span><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="NL">We say “ik houd van mijn kinderen” with the same ease as we say “ik houd van een boterham met kaas”. If you <u>like</u> a person, you say “ik vind hem/haar wel aardig”. </span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">There
is also the question of Are we ‘allowed’ to express certain feelings? I
think Marlou hit the nail on the head with her remarks about
understatement. To ‘esteem’ a person is something entirely different
from “having a crush on somebody”. ‘Verliefd zijn op iemand’ has little
to do with ‘esteem’ but much more with hormones etc.etc. Still they are
all aspects of love and depending on the culture in which we live
different aspects are allowed. The parents who have their daughters
circumsized are convinced they do this out of love, but here their
culture is clearly more important than their daughter.</span></p><p style="margin-left: 40px; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span></p><p style="margin-left: 40px; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);" class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size: 11pt;">What do you guys think?</span></p><p style="margin-left: 40px; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span></p><p style="margin-left: 40px; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);" class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size: 11pt;">Jacqueline BdJ</span></p><div style="margin-left: 40px; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Seattle Wa, USA</span><span style="font-size: 11pt;"></span><br><br><span style="font-size: 11pt;">
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