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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"> </font></p><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From: <span>Hellinckx Luc</span> <span><a href="mailto:luc.hellinckx@gmail.com" target="_blank">luc.hellinckx@gmail.com</a></span></span><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
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Subject: LL-L "Etymology"</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
Beste Ron,</span><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br><div><div>You wrote:</div><div><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><div>In
many Low Saxon dialects, this type of light, steady rain (and the
accompanying low light conditions) are known as (masculine) <i>Druus</i> [dru:s], and the derived adjective/adverb is <i>drusig</i> ['dru:zɪç].<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I think the original meaning of [dru:s] may have been "murk" (compare Old English "drusan" to sink, and "to drowse"), evolving to:</div>
<div><ul><li>[dru:s]: nickname for the devil (the dark one, in many dialects)</li><li>[dru:s]: sediment, dark sludgy substance in a liquid, also a horse disease (cf. droesem in Dutch)</li>
<li>[dru:s]: as in toponym Droeshout and surname Droesbeke (dark, marshy wood and muddy, slow running brook)</li><li>[dru:s]: nickname for a big, clumsy, slow-witted fellow</li>
</ul></div><div><br></div><div>Not too sure English "drizzle" is related btw. Seems like a substrate word, together with Dutch "dras".</div>
<div><br></div><div>Kind greetings,</div><div><br></div><div>Luc Hellinckx, Halle, Belgium<br><br></div></div></div><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">----------</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From: <span>Mark and Ruth Dreyer</span> <span><a href="mailto:mrdreyer@lantic.net" target="_blank">mrdreyer@lantic.net</a></span></span><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
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Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2011.11.23 (05) [EN]<br><br></span><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Dear Ron:</div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject: LL-L <span>Etymology</span><br><br>We've
started with that now on the Highveld. Fine weather, for ducks. S Africans
can get really morbid when they don't see the Sun.</div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">By the way; I think you'll get more meat out of the
English term 'drizzle' by which they mean light rain of long duration. A brief
burst of the same would rate 'shower'. My Yiddish ear says this has to be a
<b>little</b> 'drizz' - whatever that izz.</div>
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<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Reciprocations to you, Ron & all you Americans, eat a
fat slice of pecan pie for me!</div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">All Yrs,</div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Mark</div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">You wrote:</div>
<font face="Arial"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">...I am referring to a dark, depressing day of constant
rain ... November at its worst (short of snow in a hilly area like
this).</span><div><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">I may have mentioned the following some years ago, but I am sure
it can stand repeating.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">In many Low Saxon dialects, this type of light,
steady rain (and the accompanying low light conditions) are known as (masculine)
</span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Druus</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> [dru:s], and the derived adjective/adverb is </span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">drusig</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
['dru:zɪç].</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">----------</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From: <span>Paul Finlow-Bates</span> <span><a href="mailto:wolf_thunder51@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">wolf_thunder51@yahoo.co.uk</a></span></span>
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<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </div><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2011.11.23 (05) [EN]<br><br></span><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span>That sort of rain is called "drizzle" in England (and
probably other UK countries too). Online Etymological dictionary dates
it to 1540s, probably from OE <i>dreosan</i>, to fall. Related to PIE <span><i>*dhreu,</i> related to "drip".</span></span></div>
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<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span><span>Paul.</span></span></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span><span></span></span> </div>
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span>PS: when it is really fine rain, we call it "mizzle", combining "drizzle" with "mist".<br><br>----------<br><br></span></span><font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" face="Arial">From:<span> </span><span><span></span></span></font><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span>Ed Alexander</span> <span><a href="mailto:edsells@cogeco.ca" target="_blank">edsells@cogeco.ca</a></span></span><font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" face="Arial"><span><span></span><span></span></span><span></span>
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Subject: <span>LL-L "Etymology" 2011.11.23 (05) [EN]</span></font><font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" face="Arial"><br><br></font><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">At 08:16 PM 23/11/2011, Ron wrote:</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<blockquote style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" type="cite">In many Low Saxon dialects, this
type of light, steady rain (and the accompanying low light conditions)
are known as (masculine) <i>Druus</i> [dru:s], and the derived
adjective/adverb is <i>drusig</i> ['dru:zɪç].<br><div><br>
Now, this reminds me of English "drowsy" and the Scots verb
<i>drouse</i> (<i>droose</i> [dru:z] 'to be drowsy'), considering also
that, like English "drowsy" and Scots <i>drouse</i>, the Low
Saxon words can refer to a state of sleepiness as well. Are we talking
about a coincidence or about a relationship? Are there other Lowlands
pieces of the puzzle?</div></blockquote><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
You forgot "drizzle." It looks like drowsy comes from a
different root than </span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">drusig</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">.</span><br><br><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font color="#888888">
<font size="2">Ed Alexander</font></font></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" face="Arial"><br>----------<br><br>From:<span> </span><span><span></span></span></font><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span>Jacqueline Bungenberg de Jong</span> <span><a href="mailto:Dutchmatters@comcast.net" target="_blank">Dutchmatters@comcast.net</a></span></span><font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" face="Arial"><span><span></span><span><br>
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Subject: <span>LL-L "Etymology" 2011.11.23 (05) [EN]</span></font><font face="Arial"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br></font><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Hello there ‘stadgenoot’</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">A
Dutch friend came to visit me this afternoon and she said, while we
were negotiating the puddles in the driveway, “en als dit thuis was
geweest, zou ik ook nog op de fiets zijn gekomen”!! Brrrrr</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Which brings me back to your etymological question.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" lang="NL">Dutch
knows ‘druisen’ which my dictionary tells me is ‘een aanhoudend maar
ongelijkmatig, verward, vrij sterk geluid voortbrengen. </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I
think that makes meterological sense today. And then there are of
course druilen en druipen (respectively not showing any energy and to
drip). Does that remind you of something??</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Keep dry!</span></p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Jacqueline BdJ </span><br>
<font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" face="Arial"><br>----------<br></font><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From: R. F. Hahn <<a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com" target="_blank">sassisch@yahoo.com</a>></span><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
</div><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </div><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
Subject: Etymology</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Thanks for all the responses.
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">Now that you have mentioned it I am convinced that <i>drizzle</i>
is related, must have come from *<i>drysel</i> ['dry:zl] (< /druz+el-/, diminutive
frequentive, umlauted).<br></p><font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" face="Arial"><br>Regards,</font><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Reinhard/Ron</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Seattle, USA</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="MsoNormal">My keyboard just broke, and the
stores are closed for the holiday … It is horrendous working around that.</p></div></font><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"></span><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><div><div>
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